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Guardian Journalist: "What's with Britain & its creepy, aggressive transphobia?"

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elle1111112 · 21/01/2019 13:53

twitter.com/tauriqmoosa/status/1087329595723051010

^Status from Guardian Journalist

Sorry but "Creepy"? CREEPY?! What an odd choice of words. I'd say it's more creepy to be desperate to access to womens spaces but that's just me.

Does he not realise that this is about womens safety? These people are so clueless.

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Apollo440 · 21/01/2019 16:21

Interesting that they deny that there are any men who are trying to get into women's prisons. Is it different in the US.

EJennings · 21/01/2019 16:18

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deepwatersolo · 21/01/2019 16:11

This person really does have a bee in her bonnet about higher class folk! Amusing she thinks we're all rich women.

This person would need a reality check via a bunch of Lisa Muggeridge vids.

Trinity1976 · 21/01/2019 15:59

The person who tweeted this:

It’s tied to class. It was explained to me that most of these “advocates” are rich women who got their equality and don’t want to “give any of it up.” Because as we all know, justice is a pie that has to be carved

also tweeted this in the same thread:

But it’s also over represented in media because the media in the UK is still predominantly higher class people, so a fringe idea is actually being presented as a mainstream (and valid) line of thought.

This person really does have a bee in her bonnet about higher class folk! Amusing she thinks we're all rich women. What a shame that isn't true.

OnlyWomenBleed · 21/01/2019 15:49

You can exist all you want, change the law to tell me I no longer do and I have every right to object.

Glad to learn I am rich, me and all the other women being ground into the pavement by the steel boot of austerity...

Floisme · 21/01/2019 15:41

Now I think about it, I've a feeling the guy who was interviewed on RT with Nic Williams (on Friday?) may have said something similar. I don't remember the word 'creepy' but there was certainly an implication that we were unhealthily obsessed with toilets. So there may be a pattern.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 21/01/2019 15:27

I think the use of the word 'creepy' is quite deliberate.

It's often used as a word to describe inappropriate male behaviour to girls and women.

He's trying to say that women and girls wanting space away from men is creepy, the opposite of how it's usually used.

It's like when a male transperson tweeted about not 'consenting' to puberty. It's a word women often use when discussing the implications of self id.

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nauticant · 21/01/2019 15:03

Have a look at the rest of this twitter.com/tauriqmoosa/with_replies and ask yourself: would I expect to get quality journalism if I paid this guy to write an article?

OlennasWimple · 21/01/2019 15:03

Yy Sloth

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nauticant · 21/01/2019 14:52

People who grasp what trans now means

I honestly think that there is a substantial number of trans allies who just cannot allow themselves to look beyond what is presented to them as the permitted view from the permitted source. They know that they must do an immediate three wise monkeys whenever exposed to a heresy. Many of them will be acting and speaking in good faith. It is very sad.

Ereshkigal · 21/01/2019 14:43

YY Sloth.

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elle1111112 · 21/01/2019 14:35

What annoys me the most is that he's a journalist for a number of publications so he's not just some TRA on Twitter he's someone with actual influence.

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waterlego · 21/01/2019 14:35

They just don’t engage with the actual arguments at all. Someone was saying this morning that Glinner is right wing. I disagreed and said that Glinner’s followers are overwhelmingly lefties. For the next hour, one lovely chap called me an idiot, a moron, mentally disabled, a deaf fuck, immoral, morally bankrupt, discriminatory, and repeatedly told me to fuck off and told me I hate trans people.

All this was based on my sharing my view that Glinner and his followers are not really what you would call right wing. He wouldn’t engage with any actual points, nor explain how he had come to the conclusion that my words and actions are damaging to trans people. Bafffling.

Slothslothsloth · 21/01/2019 14:33

I’m getting a sense a lot of the people in that thread still think trans women are exclusively gay men who’ve had bottom surgery. Many of the replies gave me that vibe.

Ereshkigal · 21/01/2019 14:32

What's with foreign male Guardian writers and their relentless misogyny?

hackmum · 21/01/2019 14:32

He seems to be a law student who freelances on the side rather than a bona fide Guardian journalist.

Just another idiotic wokebro dressing up his misogyny as progressiveness. Time to sing a different tune, love.

nauticant · 21/01/2019 14:29

As I've said before, I read stuff like that and think that if the progressives in the US don't get a grip they'll be getting Trump again in 2020.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 21/01/2019 14:25

That's one very busy little echo chamber. To quote one very middle class radio broadcaster "Kiss my cheese, woke bros".

#woman=adulthumanfemale.

deepwatersolo · 21/01/2019 14:24

What is weird is that they dont know or acknowledge the history of their country. Men have been gay and dressing like women for over a thousand years in Britain alone nevermibd the rest of Europe. Everyone needs to get over it already.

And yet, the fact that since time immemorial human cultures across the globe have made a distinction btween men and women based on their reproductive biologies and nothing else is somehow irrelevant.

andyoldlabour · 21/01/2019 14:20

"I find it interesting that gender critical people tend to use logical arguments and evidence"

This is why TRA plus their supporters refuse to debate with gender critical folks, because we use "old magic" such as biology and several millenia of hard earned knowledge.
All they can ever put forward are "feels" and emotive statements backed up by easily refuted "statistics".

NothingOnTellyAgain · 21/01/2019 14:18

This comment is lol

"What is weird is that they dont know or acknowledge the history of their country. Men have been gay and dressing like women for over a thousand years in Britain alone nevermibd the rest of Europe. Everyone needs to get over it already."

Has it occured to anyone that:

  • The fact that Enlgish men (probably more than British men?) are more than keen to "dress up like a woman" at the drop of a hat, the established existance of cross dressing (men to women) in this country as a sexual fetish is the EXACT reason women here are dubious? When people say OH a man would never "dress as a woman" unless he was a woman at heart, maybe not in other countries but english men are world renowned as being keen to don a dress and fake boobs at the drop of a hat...
  • The gay men who dressed up "as women" never said they WERE WOMEN did they. That's a hardly non trivial difference. It's kind of the whole point

I like all the stuff about how apparently people "in africa" didn't know what sex was in humans (male female dick cunt babies) before western colonialisation Grin