Emily Wilding Davison Engineering Scholarship for women.....

They can indirectly verify a GRC by asking for a birth certificate. The scholarship could simply be for women (legal women). So many orgs have tied themselves in knots thinking its controversial, or difficult (or mean or perhaps old fashioned) to do something for women.

Is it actually legal to offer places to people identifying as women? I thought you could only do positive discrimination to groups as listed in the equality act? If so they are breaking the law. The can offer to women ( which unless they have a good reason includes transwomen with grc and would not need to be stated
( I know the disclosure problem exists if the transwomen with grc is clearly not female, and they can’t actually verify that the person has a grc) but denying the scholarship to some men and not others is clear discrim8natiom that is not supported under the equality act

If its for anyone, just say that. Daft saying its for women only, then saying its actually mixed sex, makes no sense!

I certainly agree that it's entirely wrong subvert a scholarship meant for a specific underrepresented group (women in engineering) by including another group. If there's any stats suggesting TW are underrepresented in the eligible fields, then they should lobby for their own scholarships - but as courses such as computer gaming seem to be on the list I somehow doubt that's the case).

However, in reality, the vast majority of male students wouldn't think to apply, they would simply assume that this scholarship really is supposed to be for women.

I genuinely don't get why places do this. If its for anyone, just say that. Daft saying its for women only, then saying its actually mixed sex, makes no sense!

I identify as being able to code and do the kind of maths necessary to be an engineer.

Hawayman I love both your temporary username and your email

I am happy to write in as well, think it’s always worth making the point with these things. It’s absolute bullshit

I hate this so much! Women's scholarships open to literally anyone... absolute piss-take.

It is possible to fill in the form and submit it.
There is an opportunity to make a short statement.

I guess long painted nails get in the way on the keyboard?

What is it about female ‘identity’ that they think prevents people from coding?

Ugh. The thing is they are giving this scholarship as "Positive Action" which is allowed under the Equality Act - - i. e. For people with a particular underrepresented protected characteristic: in this case being a woman.

But then they've opened it up to people with the protected characteristic of being men, as long as they have the separate protected characteristic of "gender reassignment"

I don't think they can legitimately do this!

Girls who Code have similarly inclusive language to the point of maybe-you-should-change-your-organisation’s-name-to/better-reflect-your-wokeness.
IT isn’t short on transwomen or men, it needs women.

girlswhocode.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010933794-Who-is-eligible-to-join-a-Club-?mobile_site=true

Open to girls who:
“Identify as female, regardless of gender assignment at birth or legal recognition.”

FFS an organisation set up to solve a problem that forgets what the problem is.

Northumbria 'engineering and environment' is a bit of a mixed bag though.

This is pathetic.
But I do agree with the PP in that the engineering discipline is fairly self selective and is unlikely to appeal to people obsessed with their own identity, nor are they likely to demonstrate the requisite critical thinking and well, logic.

Jesus, it all feels overwhelmingly bad at the moment.

So... Northumbria Uni, just to clarify.....can anyone applying for this STEM scholarship for women:-

identify as a UK/EU applicant
identify as having a household income of under £40,000
identify as having no previous study in Higher Education
identify as meeting all individual entry requirements
identify as a self-funded student

No?..... Just the dictionary definition of the word woman you can't cope with. Otherwise, material reality rules?

One area where transwomen are vastly over-represented is STEM..

Do you know of any stats on that? I know there's supposed to be a lot of trans people in various software type things but not sure if that holds for actual engineering and sciences?

Could you please clarify your definition of "woman" and explain how one can identify as one. I look forward to your response.

Excellent!

There was a thread a while ago in which someone got very sensible response from (IIRC) one of the engineering institutes... might be worth trying to find that to see if there's anything in it worth quoting.

One area where transwomen are vastly over-represented is STEM...

Okay, how does this sound:

Dear X,

I am proud female student at Northumbria University. I was delighted to see your recent scholarship advertisement for female engineering students at our university. However, upon reading the terms and conditions of the advertisement, I saw a specification that the student must "be a women or identify as a woman". I am confused as to what this statement means. Could you please clarify your definition of "woman" and explain how one can identify as one. I look forward to your response.

Thank you for your time.

Namedhanged, but I'm a regular.

I am a mature student at this uni. Would it be worth writing an email?