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Posie is being interviewed under caution

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Pandamodium · 17/01/2019 07:47

At the request of Susie Green. A public order offence has been mentioned.

What the shite is the world coming to.

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gendercritter · 17/01/2019 14:19

Caro Jesus reading that sent shivers down my spine. I'm sorry you've experienced so much harrassment. How frightening.

Datun · 17/01/2019 14:15

This was in the context of victim-blaming though Datun

Yes I sort of assumed it was. And I was waiting for someone to say if you want women to have recourse to the law, it's the law who is doing this.

Nonetheless, the police need to be held accountable.

I'm sure it's already been posted, but this thread by Dr EM is incredibly damning of Green. And well worth a read.

It's quite breathtaking that she is the one who the police are nailling their colours to. Big mistake in my opinion.

mobile.twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1075033888110624770

CallMeSirShotsFired · 17/01/2019 14:03

What is she supposed to have done?

In tribute to Posie, let's answer that with a nice Dictionary Definition shall we:

castration
/kaˈstreɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: castration; plural noun: castrations
the removal of the testicles of a male animal or man.

Fact 1: Susie Green took her male-born child to Thailand to be castrated (as per above definition) at the age of 16.
Fact 2: This operation is not allowed in the UK for minors.
Fact 3: After Susie Green had her son castrated there, Thailand also made the operation illegal for minors.

Posie Parker has repeated this publicly available information, which Susie Green has done so on multiple occasions, even laughing about her child's neo-vagina (a tube constructed of the inverted penis shaft and skin etc)

littlbrowndog · 17/01/2019 14:02

Jeez Caroline.
That is so awful
Sorry for you not getting police backing
Just awful

Coyoacan · 17/01/2019 14:00

#IStandWithPosie

Carowiththegoodhair · 17/01/2019 13:51

This was in the context of victim-blaming though Datun Angry

Datun · 17/01/2019 13:47

When the police rang me for an update, the first question they asked was "have you been talking about transgender issues on your Twitter account"?!

Fucking hell.

This needs to get into a public court. Urgently.

If the police know full well that talking about an issue will 100% bring you rape threats, death threats and being doxed, women need to have instant recourse to the law.

MiddleAgeRage · 17/01/2019 13:43

Why does SG have so much power over the police?

The WYP Hate Crimes Co-ordinator is a personal friend of the Green family I believe.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/01/2019 13:43

the inconsistency of it all makes my blood boil

This.

theresaspiderinthesink · 17/01/2019 13:39

Posie has spent time and money highlighting some serious safeguarding errors and a new wave of acceptable misogyny embraced by leaders of our country, schools, girl guides and various other public bodies.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 17/01/2019 13:34

I believe the site with the link was one of those set up by @null on KiwiFarms. A very long but most informative thread is on there as well. I've read every single one of its 130-odd pages

Theswaggyotter · 17/01/2019 13:26

I’m with Posie all the way and happy to chip in if any funds required. Thought police are now a reality Angry

Stardustinmyeyes · 17/01/2019 12:52

Earlier today Posie's Facebook account had a report about he who must not be named along with screenshots of conversations where he expressed his desire to help young girls in restrooms.
It's gone now, says attachment removed as the person may not have permission to share it.
I can second the hoodies they're great, very warm and comfortable

Cismyfatarse1 · 17/01/2019 12:45

She has given public talks on the subject of juvenile transition and is also head of a charity that receives public money to promote what many feel is dangerous propaganda.

I assume you are talking about Stonewall and our Ruthie?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 17/01/2019 12:45

Mermaids are a registered charity, their accounts are public

I’ve had a look at them, but the only thing that leapt out at me was a big increase in their funding over the last couple of years, due to things like children in need

However IANAA

Carowiththegoodhair · 17/01/2019 12:44

It seems clear that the police need training in terms of what constitutes cyber-harassment, what is acceptable conduct and what is not.

Compare how Posie is being treated with the following experience:

3 months of prolonged and sustained cyber-harassment with over 50 abusive posts written every single day. Posts which doxed my children , my ex and my husband and published private details. Posts which included explicit sexual insults and threats designed to sexually humiliate and degrade. Posts which in the context of hating on me, informed people of my DH's movements and made repeated threats to turn up here. Malicious phonecalls. One post before Christmas published photographs demonstrated that the suspect was less than 3 minutes walk away from my house and said that we would be getting a nasty surprise soon.

In addition scores of accounts using my photograph (wearing Posie's t-shirt) were set up on porn sharing websites and dating websites. Every day I receive dozens explicit emails from men wanting to meet but I can't get into these sites to remove the account or change the password. Myself and DH had hundred of pounds worth of sex toys ordered using our names and addresses and including an attempt to set up a business account with an industrial supplier. The nature of the goods ordered indicated the person had the same kinds of obsessions as the person writing the abusive blog, who said "you need porn and dildos in your life".

When the police rang me for an update, the first question they asked was "have you been talking about transgender issues on your Twitter account"?! I still don't know if charges are going to be laid and I was told that it does not constitute harassment. Even though the activity began on Twitter with the person tweeting me over 117 times a day.

Sorry to derail. But honestly the inconsistency of it all makes my blood boil. Posie's case also makes it much harder for people in my situation.

Susie Green is a public figure who has put her private actions and the private medical treatment of her child in the public eye in order to politicise it. She is the one who allowed cameras into her family life to publicise her daughter. She is the one who put personal, intimate details about the appearance of her child's sex organs into the public domain on a BBC documentary, even laughing about the affect puberty blockers had upon them. If you court public opinion, make yourself into a public figure and crucially receive public money and use your child's experience to drive public policy, then you should expect criticism.

Posie has the same right as Susie Green to direct public policy, which includes highlighting the problematic nature of Susie Green's decisions for her child.

God help us all if criticising the public life choices of a public figure in receipt of public money now constitutes harassment.

Mner2019 · 17/01/2019 12:43

#Istandwithposie. I think she's absolutely brilliant.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 17/01/2019 12:38

So would a girl who had been mutilated but was too afraid of her family not get justice then?

Why isn’t there an option for it to be prosecuted regardless, like DV? Surely in many cases of fgm there’s significant cultural/familial pressure which would lead to a lot of victims refusing to press charges against family.

Terfing · 17/01/2019 12:36

All of my sympathy for SG has gone. She is ruining children's lives, and she knows it.

Funnily enough, she would get a lot of support and advice on Mumsnet if she ever decided to actually find out who we really are! She needs a friend, and Mumsnet may be the friend she needs.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 17/01/2019 12:35

Independent Inquiry Child Sexual Abuse

womanformallyknownaswoman · 17/01/2019 12:33

I believe SG has been reported to police re illegal genital mutilation of a child but as that child is now an adult and apparently doesn't object to the mutilation they won't investigate

Then surely Mermaids could be reported to the Independent Inquiry for Child Abuse for this?

NotANotMan · 17/01/2019 12:30

I believe SG has been reported to police re illegal genital mutilation of a child but as that child is now an adult and apparently doesn't object to the mutilation they won't investigate

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/01/2019 12:25

I also don’t understand how this woman was allowed to get away with mutilating her child and harassing a gc woman in this way. Worrying times.

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