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Brexit- is it a feminist issue?

33 replies

traceyracer · 15/01/2019 21:06

In the interest of women's rights, would it be better to stay in or out of the EU or would it matter either way?

thoughts?

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deepwatersolo · 16/01/2019 13:56

Well, Quentin, from the progressive Left perspective, the EU is a neoliberal endeavour with a Democracy deficit, that currently negotiates stuff like TiSA (ratchet clause, privatized stuff cannot be renationalized), and ensures, say, cheap Eastern European companies can send people West and work there for pennies (living 10 men in a room sometimes, while working there), so Western European workers, with higher living expenses, simply cannot compete and wages are trashed. The Leftist proponents of the EU I know all insist the EU must be reformed from within, nobody says 'oh it is great as it is'.

So, I can see the allure of a Brexit for the UK Left. That said, as things stand, the risks that Brexit will make things in the UK tougher, more austere and trash the social net and workers rights than they could ever become in the EU are pretty darn great. It is a high risk gamble imo.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 16/01/2019 13:11

The thought of Corbyn and Momentum in power, misogynistic women-hating mob that they are, bloody terrifies me, even more than crashing out of the EU without a deal.

Praying that fgs someone gets a grip and rescinds article 50.

bluescreen · 16/01/2019 13:08

EU regulations don't stop other EU countries running state-owned railways, some of which have franchises here in the UK.

Freespeecher · 16/01/2019 11:05

QuentinWinters

As I understand it, one if the reasons Corbyn wants to leave is that he knows EU regulations prevent him from nationalising the railways, utilities etc.

Just another example of the unlikely alliances found in many areas at the moment.

QuentinWinters · 16/01/2019 09:49

What deep says. I suspect negative effects of Brexit, like austerity, will disproportionately impact women.
When you look at the attitudes towards women of key brexiteers (Rees-Mogg, Bo-Jo etc) I can't see why they would even bother thinking about this.

What I can't get my head round is why Jeremy Cornyn is pro brexit. The EU seems like a broadly left structure to me, lots if countries working together for the common good. I guess that's why 70% of Labour are pro remain .

deepwatersolo · 16/01/2019 09:24

As an outsider from the continent, I guess so. I can understand some of the sentiment behind Brexit (take back Democracy and all), and a leftist argument could be make that it will allow better protections for workers or vulnerable groups that the EU would never accept, but as things stand, I strongly suspect that Brexit will be used to have more markt radicalism, more austerity, less protections for workers, less social safety net... and all that will affect women disproportionately.

nojellybabies · 16/01/2019 09:18

The Women's Equality Party position is here:

"Tonight the Prime Minister's Brexit deal was rejected in the largest government defeat in modern history. In total 432 MPs from all parties voted against the deal and a motion of no confidence in the government has been tabled for tomorrow.

Parliament is in crisis.

There are just 73 days left before we crash out of the EU without a deal - a situation that would be disastrous for women who are too often the shock absorbers in a crisis. None of the establishment parties has a plan that conjures enough support at home or abroad, and Jeremy Corbyn is still pushing for us to Brexit.
Tell Jeremy Corbyn to put the country ahead of his own ambitions for power

The Prime Minister has vowed to work across Parliament to build consensus for a new deal, and she will return with a statement on Monday. But it is simply not possible to achieve unity in the name of division.

At our party conference, members voted unanimously in support of a People's Vote with the option to remain in the EU. We must now fight with everything we have to demand that People's Vote, and to make sure this time women's voices are heard. "

feministfairy · 15/01/2019 21:20

The Brexit board has some great insightful threads with lots of women / feminists posting. Like this thread - the most recent of a long running series:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3480053-Westminstenders-Plan-B-is-Plan-A-again

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