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Well this is laughably impossible.

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RedemptiveCrocodile · 15/01/2019 12:38

twitter.com/Mortain/status/1084733754872975360

There is so much wrong with this tweet, I don't know where to start.

But it definitely proves the bald-faced hubris of males, does it not? "Anything c*s can do, trans can do better!"

Gah!

Well this is laughably impossible.
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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/01/2019 17:06

What a complete load of shit

Why do people lie like this...are they actually delusional

Pandamodium · 15/01/2019 17:06

Some antipsychotic drugs for example increase prolactin levels.

I was just coming on to say a medication (risperisone) made my DH's nipples leak. It was fucking hilarious for me but he's still traumatised.

Probably TMI but it just looked like watery discharge not proper breast milk. No way would I of let my baby near it and I was BF'ing at the time.

calpop · 15/01/2019 16:55

Some of the reples on that thread are hilarious. "Are we sure the right white milky fluid was tested"?

Let these idiots carry on I say, peak transing more of the twitter sphere with every idiotic tweet.

I challenge any of these trans people that are so convinced they should be able to replace female biology to conceive a baby. Then carry it for 9 months, with the nausea, heartburn, SPD, pain, discomfort, lack of sleep that that entails, not to mention being put on the Mummy Track at work. Then give birth, in an NHS hospital, where women are left lying in their own blood and shit, have their shiny new neo vaginas, that are so much better than ours, shredded and then sewn back together wrong. Then take care of a newborn single handedly for days with no sleep. Then try and produce enough milk to feed that baby, so much needed that you wake up drenched in it. Then try and express enough milk into a few bottles a few weeks later so you can go out and have a break, probably the first one in a year. Then see how much they want to lactate and how sexually arousing it is.

But they never would even if they could None of them are strong enough for that, unlike most women.

applestrudels · 15/01/2019 16:52

In brief, the man (who was a fully intact male) was already on cross-sex hormones and taking prescribed tranquilisers and sleeping pills that he continued taking all these throughout.

That was it. That part made me particularly angry. When I was a baby my mum dropped a saucepan full of boiling oil on her feet, was in hospital for ages, and was only allowed the teeniest tiniest amount of painkiller because she was breast-feeding. Actual breastfeeding mothers have to be so careful, and sometimes have to make sacrifices one way or the other, and if they can't give up their medication they would simply bottle feed because the important thing is the baby's health, whereas for this narcissist it was all about his own validation and sod the baby.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 15/01/2019 16:48

Grin[santa]

FloralBunting · 15/01/2019 16:46

Years? You know that's the plan for a fortnight's time, right?Wink

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 15/01/2019 16:44

We will be falling over ourselves to buy transwoman breastmilk for our lucky babies instead of rubbishy ciswoman milk.

We shouldn't laugh too much though. In a couple of years we'll be banned from Twitter for saying this.

ShockedHorrored · 15/01/2019 16:42

I went in to a bit of a Twitter black hole earlier and was reading various replies/threads and came across one eejit who said that apparently trans women have less testosterone than cis women because they basically get rid of all their testosterone. Can’t remember exact wording. When you read one load of bollocks and then just keep reading and there aren’t enough 🤦🏻‍♀️ In the world to express how you feel.

OlennasWimple · 15/01/2019 16:30

Chinny reckon indeed Grin

When I donated to a milk bank, I had to have a baby under 6 months old when I started, all my milk was labelled in relation to how many weeks post-partum it was produced and the milk itself wasn't tested but I had a blood test for the sorts of things that can be passed on through milk that babies don't want (like HIV). And of course my milk had all sorts of protective, wonderous stuff in it that babies absolutely do want.

Still, Cow & Gate , Aptamil, Nestle will be chuffed - no need to spend all that money trying (and largely failing) to reproduce breast milk in a laboratory. They have been going about it all wrong, as all they need is a willing supply of men on hormones et voila! Perfect, healthier than healthy maternal breast milk!!

Hmm
FreezerBird · 15/01/2019 16:27

"You don't know her because she goes to a different school"

AutumnCrow · 15/01/2019 16:26

Good old Twitter. They all come out of the woodwork in the end.

User10fuckingmillion · 15/01/2019 16:23

Troll or very very silly person?

AspieAndProud · 15/01/2019 16:22

Gah! Silentcrow beat me to it. Should have read the thread first!

AspieAndProud · 15/01/2019 16:20

Is this what Kiwi farms means by a Lolcow?

GrumpyGran8 · 15/01/2019 15:19

I remember reading somewhere about a transwoman in America whose wife was pregnant and the TIM wanted to breastfeed the baby and be its sole food source, so his transition doctor put him on a (purely experimental) course of hormones to promote lactation, an the was able to lactate a tiny amount.
Here's a critical analysis of that study: lascapigliata8.wordpress.com/2018/03/26/analysis-of-study-of-induced-lactation-in-trans-identified-man/
In brief, the man (who was a fully intact male) was already on cross-sex hormones and taking prescribed tranquilisers and sleeping pills that he continued taking all these throughout. To induce lactation he was given a drug that has been banned in several countries.
The man was able to express some milk before the birth; the researchers make no mention of testing ay ofthis milk. After the birth, he was allowed to express and measure milk at home; he researchers didn't interview the mother or see the baby, and the amount the man claimed to have expressed was entirely insufficient to feed a baby.

In short - unbelievable.

Bowlofbabelfish · 15/01/2019 14:20

Bollocks they do Grin

Males can lactate - if they go it means they are producing prolactin and that means something is wrong somewhere. Some antipsychotic drugs for example increase prolactin levels.

So males can, technically, lactate, in the sense of producing a secretion from the mammary.

What males cannot do is produce a situation akin to female normal lactation. They do not have sufficient tissue nor can they produce enough. So a Male lactating is usually a symptom of a disease process or exogenous hormones.

To donate, you need a baby under a few months old and to be tested for various pathogens. The ‘quality’ of the milk is not tested.

Bear in mind that a woman taking hormones will likely be unable to donate - the advice is to pump and dump even with the morning after pill. A Male, taking hormones to produce abnormal, marginal lactation, would not be able to fovate, and would not be able to produce enough to donate.

File under ‘did ye, aye?’

applestrudels · 15/01/2019 14:16

I remember reading somewhere about a transwoman in America whose wife was pregnant and the TIM wanted to breastfeed the baby and be its sole food source, so his transition doctor put him on a (purely experimental) course of hormones to promote lactation, an the was able to lactate a tiny amount.

The article was criticising the doctor for all sorts of things, as it seems the treatment was 100% focused on the man, with no examination of the baby or the mother for that matter, no thought seems to have been given to whether the hormones would impact on the baby, the milk wasn't tested for nutritional quality, he was only producing a very small amount , nowhere near enough for a baby of that age, and yet claimed he was the sole food source... all very messed up. I can't find the exact article I read but if you google "trans woman breastfeeding" loads of articles come up about the case.

But in other words, no, normal HRT given to TIMS does not cause lactation, it's only if they're given a specific treatment to trigger lactation. TBH I've known to young (vigrin) men who thought that all women can lactate all the time, this one's probably one of them.

RiddleyW · 15/01/2019 14:04

Well it gives a new thing to argue about in the breastfeeding threads at least. Formula now in third place.

silentcrow · 15/01/2019 13:53

How marvellous! Let's get them all hooked up to milking machines post-haste.

Like cows.

Lolcows.

timetostepup · 15/01/2019 13:47

"Healthier than a cis women's". Hmm

So, where is this test of what's healthy in breast milk? By what measure, exactly?

Given it's a fascinating but developing science, and we don't even know what everything in breast milk does, how the fuck would anyone even know if they'd produced milk that was "healthier"?

LangCleg · 15/01/2019 13:47

But then how would we know they have lady souls and lady brains Lang?

Well, we wouldn't. But they might be more relaxed if they didn't constantly say things that make us run away screaming!

FlyingOink · 15/01/2019 13:46

I have a friend on HRT. Still has a cock, still genetically male, but turns out he has been tested and is more of a man than any CIS woman, so I have donated said friend to someone who gives a toss.
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I believe the phrase I'm looking for here is 'chinny reckon'.
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So we get to have the babies and go back to work while the Dads can do everything? This could be great for women!
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FloralBunting · 15/01/2019 13:37

Chinny reckon. Jimmy Hill.

I've actually been wiping away tears of mirth at the responses.

I showed it to my sick teen home off school because she was asking why I was laughing, and she said "Honey, you lie."

Iused2BanOptimist · 15/01/2019 13:36

They need to drop the R from HRT too. It isn't hormone replacement therapy.
It is just hormones or cross sex hormones. Quite different. It just bugs me when I see HRT being wrongly bandied about.

theresaspiderinthesink · 15/01/2019 13:35

Do you know what fuck it.

Lactate.

Be a night nanny.

My right boob is now considerably longer than the left as ds is teething and I've been resorting to latching him on just to get some sleep (after calpol of course.)

Fuck off with your fetishes.