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Most gender critical/female rights party?

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duriandurian · 15/01/2019 09:28

I have just realised that if there is an election soon I won't have a clue to whom I should give my vote.
I was thinking Lib Dem because Remain/Second Referendum. But the news articles I have googled don't look good. My local white, male labour MP Matt Western shot me down when I tried to raise women's vs transgender rights with wording suspiciously similar to other MPs' emails which were posted on here at the time.
Spoil my ballot? Thanks.

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R0wantrees · 15/01/2019 11:23

The Veritas enquiry report about David Challenor, Aimee Challenor and Safeguarding systemic failures within the Green Party should lead to questions being asked of all parties.

That Aimee Challenor's influence in Green Party was bolstered by Stonewall and Mermaids Charity's support and training.

Serious questions are being asked of both organisations already.

The consequences of trans rights activism are issues for all parties.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/01/2019 11:18

Shame there isn’t an additional box that says ‘I’m holding my nose and voting for...’ next to the tick boxes.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 15/01/2019 11:14

This is why I am slightly dreading the possibility of a GE. Just don't know what to do!
Women's rights/GC policies even aside, there is no party, nor any local candidate, who I feel I could happily give my vote to.
The whole lot are a shambles.
Perhaps Mebyon Kernow!

theOtherPamAyres · 15/01/2019 11:07

You may find that they are sympathetic to your views despite their parties stance

I would disagree with voting for individuals who, at election time, appear open to arguments that they will consider in the future.

A more robust approach is needed, in my view. Local candidates may be unaware of their party's anti-woman stance. They may secretly disagree with their party and be gender critical, but won't say anything to rock the boat. They can make all the promises that they want. Frankly, that's not good enough for me.

I strongly believe that they all need to feel women's wrath and power. The local elections will be a fore-taste of a General Election.

nauticant · 15/01/2019 11:06

I've voted for the Lib Dems for many years but I just cannot again while they turn a blind eye to the antics of twitter.com/LGBTLD. And although it's a comment from one person, Layla Moran saying should could see into people's souls makes me think "no, just no".

The ultra-woke have such a grip on Labour that I don't view them as a safe choice. I can write that without even factoring in Corbyn.

If the Conservatives made a clear statement that self ID was problematic I'd vote for them for the first time in my life. In the absence of that spoiling the ballot paper is a tempting choice.

R0wantrees · 15/01/2019 10:52

I was thinking Lib Dem because Remain/Second Referendum. But the news articles I have googled don't look good.

There is a core group of TRAs in the LibDems.
They have had a lot of influence.

Its very difficult within the LibDems to ask questions of trans rights ideology due to the current power some individuals hold, especially on social media.

theOtherPamAyres · 15/01/2019 10:47

While it's called 'spoiling your ballot', it is actually a powerful political act. It is especially powerful if loads of people do it. I intend to protest in this way at the local elections in May.

To make the protest count, you have to put a line through your ballot paper and write 'none'. This will make it clear to the returning officer that you have protested against all the parties. If you don't write 'none' clearly then it will be recorded as 'ambiguous', as though you have been confused by the choices.

To assist candidates to know why they have been rejected, you can write something like #Sexnotgender or #Woman: adult Human Female or #NoPartyStandsforWomen

All the parliamentary parties have declared that they believe TWAW and there is no sign that they will rethink that position soon or ever. They hope that we'll go away.

dolorsit · 15/01/2019 10:11

At the moment there isn't a party.

Look at the individual candidates, contact them and discover their views. Explain your perspective, you may be able to open their eyes. Tell them that this a key issue for you. You may find that they are sympathetic to your views despite their parties stance.

On your own it won't make much difference but if candidates receive a number of these approaches it will feedback to the party.

If all else fails and this a dealbreaker for you spoil your ballot paper with the reason why you didn't vote for the candidate. If possible still vote for an independent, assuming that there is one who isn't an anathema to your views. They won't win but they may get their deposit back.

I am considering doing this but over Brexit instead.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 15/01/2019 09:57

Caroline Flint has stood up in parliament on the side of women. Unfortunately, hers is the party of the wokebros.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 15/01/2019 09:41

The only MP who has understood, actively expressed concern and has taken any action at all seems to be David Davis.
Maybe others can post more MP's and we can work out which party is overall the best in this area.

JSmitty · 15/01/2019 09:35

Vote for the candidate rather than the party.

Regards the Libs, Grandpa Vince will go and be replaced by Jo Swinson who refused to sit on Lord Renard's knee to be bounced up and down.

User10fuckingmillion · 15/01/2019 09:31

It was the Communists the other week! (possibility of getting elected nil)
It’s hard isn’t it?

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