'How has the form of your child been culturally interpreted?'

If you had to choose between the Bounty person and this person visiting you in hospital, which would you go for?

Both simultaneously, they'd probably spontaneously annihilate each other.

If you had to choose between the Bounty person and this person visiting you in hospital, which would you go for?

“Oh KatherinaMinola, thank you! On a bad day, you have given me a much needed laugh, ya legend“

Seconded :)

If she'd asked me that question, depending on just how sleep deprived I was, I'd have either walked away or asked her if she was taking the piss. Coz I honestly don't even understand that nonsense question. A newborn is the least culturally constructed of all human beings and its form is the most unadulterated it can be, straight out of the womb, freshly cooked as it were. What does go on in these gender-addled minds?

And that essay someone linked to is astonishing btw. If she was my student, I'd be tempted to mark it "Good effort, please see me next time you're struggling with the reading material."

Asides the other issues with the text (wordy, waffly, imprecise and smug) if you wanted to play TRA bingo, you'd probably get a full house (de Bouvoir, oblique reference to intersex, vagina-fetishism and so on).

What I couldn't figure out is whether she is deliberately misrepresenting the gender critical/radfem analysis of gender or whether she simply doesn't get it. In either case, it leads her to write an essay that keeps coming so close and staying yet so far from the truth. If it was more riveting or rousing, one could call it propaganda, but as it stands it's just an insipid, uninspiring whinge full of lies.

One of mine was nicknamed the 'bobbing turtle', and also had a (still has a bit) hairy back. No doubt I should have culturally interpreted them as a reptilian-simian hybrid.

I had another that was made entirely of cheese

Poppy my DD was early and had proper hairy shoulders. I used to call her my little spider monkey

I wouldn't have a clue what they were wittering on about to be honest. I need an interpreter at the best of times. It's very "my little princess/handsome man" round my end I could see such wokeness getting said person a clout for implying little Mercedes* looked like a boy.

*not taking the piss, I'm common as shite and Mercedes is a family name.

Oh, that's a sweet pic Poppy, capuchin monkey babies rock!

Mine turned up 10 weeks early and still had lots of fine dark hair on his forehead, shoulders and back so initially we interpreted him as some sort of capuchin monkey.

Not dissimilar to this one

She's also handily provided a link to an essay on her website: binarythis.com/2018/04/08/why-trans-exclusionary-feminism-is-anti-feminist/ where she "answers" Hadley Freeman's critical Guardian article on the GRA.
Note how she calls Mumsnet a mummy-blog-turned-radical-feminist group. Mummies, you have been told - you cannot be radical feminists! Get back to your kitchens - this lecturer in Cultural Studies has spoken!

It’s all well and good using ‘baby’ to replace pronouns but once you know the kid’s name (I’m assuming it has a name) you’d be a bit of a prick to keep using gender neutral pronouns in most cases. Believe it or not, a vast majority of new parents are totally cool with their kids sex being decided by their genitalia.

She has now hastily back-pedalled, claiming that it was "tongue in cheek". She doesn't explain how we're supposed to tell the difference between "tongue in cheek" and "bollocks" in a tweet coming from somebody whose bio reads Research on femininity, postfeminism, fangirls, aesthetic labour, queer theory.

My idea of hell is to be stuck next to one of these nuts on a long airplane journey. I’d rub sachets of ketchup on my eyes to fake Ebola.

I love this so much.

Threewheeler1 I so, so desperately wish you had a video of that doctor trying to keep a straight face in front of the panicky new mum worried her baby's arse-crack is too long

Wouldn't these woke types just ask what pronouns to use?

'So-called sex'. FFS.

And the rest of the world will continue as usual to receive work emails about colleagues on maternity announcing "it's a boy" or "it's a girl". And no one will have a second thought about this.

Threewheeler!

My youngest came out facing the wrong way, not breech, but head looking up rather than down. Sunny side up they call it, friggin painful I called it.
His cone was on his forehead. Like a unicorn.

Also, what is 'aesthetic labour'?
Is that like, wearing makeup to give birth? Or that your look takes a lot of work? Neither of those is for me. Don't think we'd get along.

Ironically, the simple question 'what is the baby's name?' will easily clarify the baby's sex in >95% of cases.

Thank you, you lot are wonderful.

mine was forceps assisted and had a black eye and bruised face.

oi, oi, thingybob

you are responsible for dd spitting soya milk all over the keyboard and snorting it uyp her nose...

ps ex refused to be warned about pee in the eye, ds peed on his precious records and on ex's head

Surely if you want to reject all gender stereotyping the only question left is “does it have a penis or a vulva” and only in medical context.

I would never shove them in front of the telly with cheesy wotsits!

they don't bloody like cheesy wotsits, salt and vinegar here

(yep this is as far as I have got in the thread)

Lang, I know I shouldn't but...

Oh, shake away, m'dear. Thank fuck it was a long time ago!

so many good responses.

Actually I'd love to see her asking that in, for example, a breastfeeding support group. Where normally a large proportion of the mother's have bleeding/sore nipples, possibly stitches or damage to the vagina and surrounding area, and probably suffering from extreme sleep deprivation!
She'd either get blank stares, or be told "get to fuck?!" Round here!