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Drag queens pose in bond age gear for calendar in aid of Mermaids

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JoanSummers · 14/01/2019 01:13

I'm not sure if this has been posted?

"A local drag community in Newcastle have come together in style to create a one-of-a-kind 2019 calendar, with all proceeds going to charity to support transgender children and young people across the UK."

The February and March photos are attached.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6577301/Drag-queens-pose-glamorous-calendar.html

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ChewyLouie · 14/01/2019 18:13

Kink - this is kink not the WI popping out from behind a sofa. If you can’t understand the difference then brain bleach is needed- urgently.
If you want to support an organisation donate the flipping money, not everything needs to be over sexualised. I’m going to morph into Mary Whitehouse I’m getting pretty fed up with the way things are heading.

Beerflavourednipples · 14/01/2019 18:08

Not reeeeeeaaaalllllyyyyy the same NonExistentFox is it?

FlyingOink · 14/01/2019 18:01

NonExistentFox mate if you can't tell the difference between a naked sports team/Sonia from EastEnders hiding behind a menu and drag queens in a dungeon simulating a whipping there's no hope for you.
If Susie Green and the Mermaids staff had done a naked calendar there would be nothing to discuss.

TimeLady · 14/01/2019 17:36

Might this be a useful item to show any head teacher intent on inviting Mermaids into their school?

FlyingOink · 14/01/2019 17:27

I can imagine the drag queens just thought they wanted to do something to help yeah I considered that might be the case.
It almost screams untouchable in the faces of doubt. Which is the most concerning aspect.

Earlywalker · 14/01/2019 17:19

No it is odd for sure. The calendar itself is pretty harmless and is typical of drag as drag is supposed to be ‘sexy’ but it’s odd of mermaids to be linking to it. I can imagine the drag queens just thought they wanted to do something to help, in a way that is typical ‘drag’ but think mermaids should’ve perhaps declined to be associated with the calendar or accepted a donation instead.
Linking to it on Twitter is a bit odd too, especially when they are aware of the concerns around them. It almost screams untouchable in the faces of doubt.

FlyingOink · 14/01/2019 16:30

In not I'm

FlyingOink · 14/01/2019 16:30

I don’t think it’s actually aimed at children is it? Surely it’s aimed at adults, the proceeds are just going to mermaids?
That's my understanding yes. But it shows a lack of either judgement or concern to use this as a fundraising method.
You could host some White Collar Boxing matches to raise money for a DV shelter, or a pub crawl to raise money for children orphaned by a drink driving accident, or sell scratch cards for a gambling addiction charity, but that's all I'm pretty poor taste and this is too

picklemepopcorn · 14/01/2019 16:26

Perhaps I should suggest it to the PTA.

picklemepopcorn · 14/01/2019 16:24

Yes Earlywalker, but could you imagine any other children's charity raising money in this way? Guides? ClicSeargent? Your local swimming club?

Earlywalker · 14/01/2019 16:21

I don’t think it’s actually aimed at children is it? Surely it’s aimed at adults, the proceeds are just going to mermaids?

feministfairy · 14/01/2019 16:18

This calendar really calls into question the safety of a charity that is aimed at children. If they are so out of touch with child development, safeguarding, child safety and the emotional development of children, they're really not fit to be working with children. Maybe they ought to be reported to the NSPCC for providing age inappropriate sexualised imagery to children.

BettyDuMonde · 14/01/2019 16:18

I guess it’s nice to do stuff for charity? But yes, BDSM, fetish and kid isn’t a very healthy combination. Gay or straight is neither here nor there, really. We happily teach kids about being gay by discussing it in the age appropriate social sphere (‘some children have two mummmies, or two daddies, and that’s just fine’) we don’t teach them about boot boys or bears!

A story about a drag performer being accused of transphobia, for new readers/lurkers: www.phillyvoice.com/aunt-mary-pat-disabatino-win-win-coffee-bar-lgbtq-transgender/

Earlywalker · 14/01/2019 16:13

There’s nothing wrong with the Calendar in itself but It is odd to associate it with a child’s charity of any kind imo

PineappleSunrise · 14/01/2019 16:07

That's an excellent question, Datun.

Datun · 14/01/2019 15:45

Would a naked and vanilla calendar be ok?

Why would you use anything that was sexualised to promote a children's charity?

JoanSummers · 14/01/2019 14:26

So many TRAs see drag as transphobic.

Except when they want to inflate their numbers.

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GerryblewuptheER · 14/01/2019 14:23

So many TRAs see drag as transphobic. I wonder if this is a (frankly terrible) way of saying "we aren't, honest"

Yes the idea of men dressing up as women and yet still knowing they are men seems to make them very very angry. And very arrogant too when they have the nerve to tell people who have been trans since before they were even born that they are transing wrong Hmm

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 14/01/2019 14:19

*accepting

Why can't we flipping edit!!!

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 14/01/2019 14:19

What I don't get is....

A lot of the Queen stuff, is all about excepting that masculinity is flawed and men can dress, dance, make up, to their hearts desire. It's okay to reject gender. Certainly that's the message given in popular culture, like the musical Kinky Boots?

But Mermaids would have transed the lead character, Simon/Lola the drag queen. He was associating with femininity as a child! To Mermaids he is a girl!!! I know that's just a story, but don't queens see themselves as men? Why are they supporting a charity that would see gender non conforming children as the opposite sex?

I'm guessing they are so woke they are bloody stupid?

So many TRAs see drag as transphobic. I wonder if this is a (frankly terrible) way of saying "we aren't, honest".

NonExistentFox · 14/01/2019 14:08

Would a naked and vanilla calendar be ok?

GerryblewuptheER · 14/01/2019 13:57

A much more interesting calendar would have been of the men in their everyday clothes alongside (non sexualised) photos of them in dresses wigs and makeup. That would have at least demonstrated that it's okay for boys to dress in a stereotypically feminine way

That would have been lovely wouldn't it. For boys to be able to see they can have long hair, wear make up wear what they like etc

Except this just continues to co firm that there is no middle ground what so ever with the people. Either they wear "boys" stuff or they dress up in bondage gear and pose provocatively.

All ironically whilst saying that no one will knlw someone is trans they all want to quietly live their lives and they have been using changing rooms for years unnoticed Hmm

picklemepopcorn · 14/01/2019 13:45

I defy anyone to imagine the Guides using this as a fundraiser. Or a kids football team. Or a childhood cancer charity. To think it might be ok, because it's to be sold to adults is just 'duh'.

FlyingOink · 14/01/2019 13:36

If this doesn't peak the majority of the gay community I don't know what will
I really hope so. All the fluffy rainbow nicey-nicey acceptance without thinking exception will be useless if the general public starts to reassociate homosexuals with perversion, excess and paedophilia. The queer warriors who moan about kink shaming are actually a small percentage, the everyday regular homosexual wants to be able to work, live and love in peace.
I think in a way it's egotistical. They can't conceive of the possibility that the status quo is fragile, and based on continuing acceptance from the majority.
Call me paranoid but it wasn't that long ago that things were very bad for obvious homosexuals and not much better for those who were closeted. This kind of stupidity really doesn't help.
I wonder if the drag queens themselves know about the kind of controversy Mermaids finds itself in. Or are they just glossing over it, assuming it's a legit LGBT cause? There appear to be a number of parties who haven't bothered to do their homework, similar to the Green Party threads. Ironic when all the info is so easy to access online.

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