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WTAF?

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WokeNotBloke · 13/01/2019 20:03

Excuse me - I honestly only stepped out for a moment. OK, admittedly, I have been sort of distracted for the last decade - y'know - children- take up a lot of time... no room of my own etc.... But ffs - when I left it was all going very nicely. If used to be that if you wanted to be a little bit radical, you hinted that female sportspersons should be paid like men.... and although there was obviously unequal pay, sexual harassment and you were subjugated by your reproductive role, no one - and I mean no one - was confused about what a woman was.

So literally I just looked away for a few seconds, and wtaf.

There just isn't enough gin in my day, and whilst I'm definitely too old, and too weak to start arguing with everyone again, I find there is just no alternative.

More to my horror, I've woken up to discover that TRAs have taken all the cool jargon. Being "woke" sounds so sorted... and "TW are women" is definitely more catchy -if slightly preposterous. As redress, I decided to reclaim "woke". I'm awake and cross and almost menopausal.

Think like a lot of women I'm just miserably unsure about what to do about it, other than feeling cross.... though I find that is always a useful first step. Thought I would come over and join MN, as I heard you were a bunch of evil harpies, intent on dreadful things Confused [skeptical] Please excuse me whilst I get used to the archaic emoji system - looking forward to chatting.

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R0wantrees · 14/01/2019 10:41

I think what's horrifying is that the more we uncover, the more it becomes clear that this has been in the works for a lot longer than we realised - quietly, secretly changes were being made that we're still uncovering.

Recent important thread which demonstrates the historical truth of trans rights' activism:

AAK wrote , "I'm going to point every "but the nice, harmless old school transsexuals whose movement has been unfairly appropriated by the nasty transgender people" person to this thread from now on.

All the same elements we're seeing now were there in that old BBC roundtable from the 70s with the 4 transwomen, the politician, and the doctor. None of this is new."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007

Micke · 14/01/2019 07:36

I think what's horrifying is that the more we uncover, the more it becomes clear that this has been in the works for a lot longer than we realised - quietly, secretly changes were being made that we're still uncovering.

I think they thought they were over the line, that it was a done deal, then some women realised, and started yelling, and some of us heard and joined in, and hopefully we've made enough noise that we stand some chance of retaining and reclaiming our rights.

ISaySteadyOn · 14/01/2019 06:34

OP, it's odd isn't it? I came out of baby fog to find I was a non-man.
2019StandingforWomen, have signed. Thanks for the reminder.

TinyRick · 14/01/2019 01:41

Also check out r/gendercritical on reddit Smile

And MN emoticons are the best because of this face -> Hmm

R0wantrees · 14/01/2019 00:07

Woke Welcome!
As well as the 'Break it Down for Me' thread, Heresyandwitchcraft is collating a fabulous index thread with many useful links.
Do ensure you have adequate refreshements to hand as one you start reading, you may be there for some time! Wine

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3335962-Frequently-Asked-Questions-FAQs-I-have-noticed-here

TheSarcasticBiscuits · 13/01/2019 23:52

Someone mentioned us?

Biscuit Biscuit Biscuit Biscuit Biscuit

Yeahnahyeah · 13/01/2019 23:41

Thank you Errol.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/01/2019 23:34

The Biscuit derives from a webchat in which Gordon Brown wouldn't say what his favourite biscuit was. This caused much derision and was perhaps one of the first 'Mumsnet stories' to make it into the wider media. The biscuit is deployed as a 'poor effort' signifier (but occasionally just as a biscuit).

Yeahnahyeah · 13/01/2019 23:27

Also I don't understand Biscuit ?

Yeahnahyeah · 13/01/2019 23:26

I know what you mean, I bent down to tie my shoes laces and when I stood up there was a lady cock in my face
Oh Chestergray, I needed a belly laugh.

GrinitchSpinach · 13/01/2019 23:22

Is there a name for a flock/gaggle/meeting/critical mass of nearly menopausal women?

I feel this is the right place to quote Absolutely Fabulous: "No, still very much menstrual, thank you, sweetie!"

Still happy to counted as part of the fury, though. Grin

AmoraObscura · 13/01/2019 23:11

Not nearly enough women actually mind

blockedbywho · 13/01/2019 23:09

Welcome, Woke, I've just followed you on Twitter Smile Many, many people to follow, twitter and MN are where I get most of the latest on this giant WTF.

2019StandingforWomen · 13/01/2019 23:08

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1084522562909016069?s=19

Welcome woke I think the same thing happened to a lot of us to be honest. Please sign the petition linked above if you can we are desperately trying to get the last couple of hundred signatures together so it can be reviewed by the government

SpareRibFem · 13/01/2019 22:57

Since peaktransing properly about a year ago I've learnt about kinks and seen sights I'd have much preferred to remain ignorant about. Sad

When I started trying to get to grips with what was going on I'd click on twitter profiles if someone had tweeted something about the topic I didn't understand to try and learn more and a couple of times unwittingly found myself face to face with trans porn Shock I felt like I wanted to wash my brain in bleach 🤢 I quickly learnt to be much more careful about what profiles I clicked on Blush

LangCleg · 13/01/2019 22:33

Welcome to the radicalisation portal, Woke!

Iused2BanOptimist · 13/01/2019 22:32

Speaking of fury, today I had to google was a furry was. I was quite surprised.
Yes I misread fury as furry and thought that was not the group for me!
You certainly learn a lot here that you often wish you had stayed ignorant of. When the women on FWR talk about babies and nappies they are often having a very different conversation to the ones on other boards at Mumsnet. ConfusedGrin
Welcome.

ChesterGreySideboard · 13/01/2019 22:32

Hi, Woke.
I know what you mean, I bent down to tie my shoes laces and when I stood up there was a lady cock in my face.

ErrolTheDragon · 13/01/2019 22:31

What's the dragon looking thing mean?

Er, 'dragon'. I think it came into existence one St David's day, but stayed due to demand from the many and various dragons on MN. As someone said 'here be dragons' upthread it seemed relevant.Grin

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WokeNotBloke · 13/01/2019 22:24

I have just joined twitter too - for the first time...if anyone wants to follow me - i'm wokenotbloke there too... I'm a bit lost, but finding my feet

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WokeNotBloke · 13/01/2019 22:22

Thanks SpareRib I read the blurb. I will try to be careful.

I feel this place needs more gin, and some cushions to mumble into. Shall scatter some around for you all (Sharing is caring etc etc) ;-)

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AngryAttackKittens · 13/01/2019 22:22

I already have one group that I'm involved in that we jokingly call a coven, so why not one more? Covens are highly underrated imo.

Womaninnit · 13/01/2019 22:21

I think the word may be ‘coven’. I think it needs to be reclaimed

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 13/01/2019 22:18

Can I just say that I have never knitted a snake in my life and I refuse to apologise for this

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