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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Did anyone watch Loose Women today?

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MrsScamander · 11/01/2019 13:19

They were discussing whether transgender people should have access to the ward of the sex they identify as.

3 of the presenters brought up the valid concerns of the safety of women but it seems Stacey Solomon thinks that its terribly unkind of women to not feel comfortable having penis in their personal space when they're vulnerable in a hospital ward.

We should ignore our own discomfort because a transwomen doesn't feel comfortable on a ward full of men 😑

Generally I like Stacey, but I cannot agree with her disregarding the concerns surrounding putting male bodies in spaces with vulnerable women. Apparently Karen White is a rare example of someone abusing self ID, so we should ignore that it happened because it doesn't happen often.

Women are collateral damage.

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FloralBunting · 11/01/2019 13:49

I'm not really sure, but I am enjoying the quirky juxtaposition of 'CIS' and Gammon.

nauticant · 11/01/2019 13:47

How many posts does it normally take for the me-railer to start whining about being oppressed?

Horsewithnomane · 11/01/2019 13:46

Great. Getting my popcorn.

Is this a regular thing?

Moderator at the pub on Friday lunchtime?

nauticant · 11/01/2019 13:45

haha.

FloralBunting · 11/01/2019 13:45

Crikey. Never quite know what brand of GF you're going to find when you open a thread these days.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/01/2019 13:44

a

a me-railer

haven't had one of those for a while

super

do tell us about the things in your head secureCompartment

leave nothing out

secureCompartment · 11/01/2019 13:40

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HollowTalk · 11/01/2019 13:40

You have to wonder at the mentality of someone who signs up to Mumsnet and goes into the Women's Rights section and suggests that nobody likes feminists. It's almost as though they are trying to cause trouble!

userschmoozer · 11/01/2019 13:38

Is MRA a worse insult than cunts? I can no longer tell.

Some women are unable to use mixed sex spaces, for example, women in abusive and controlling relationships. I don't see anyone who supports mixed sex spaces offering to sort that out.

ToeToToe · 11/01/2019 13:38

Well, what have feminists ever done for us? Wink

MrsScamander · 11/01/2019 13:38

What's depressing is the amount of bile being spewed at the other presenters (Andrea, Nadia and Gloria) for their horrendous transphobia.

Once again women voicing their concerns for the safety and women is literal violence against transgender people. We are not allowed to voice our concerns in any way.

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thatdamnwoman · 11/01/2019 13:37

I've raised this issue twice today with women whom I thought would get it but they've been very much 'Does it matter who you're lying next to in hospital if you're both ill and wired up to drips and things: what on earth do you think could possibly happen: if we don't have mixed wards we'll all have longer waiting time: NAMALT'.

I think there are some people who will never get it until they go to hospital and wake up with a man trying to get into bed with them or are using a deserted lavatory somewhere and walk in to find a man loitering. And even then they'll probably see it as an unfortunate one-off.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 11/01/2019 13:37

Does anyone like feminists? Now there’s a question Grin

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BlueCornishPixie · 11/01/2019 13:35

It's irrelevant though really if there's one woman who would be happy to share spaces like this with men, a large enough majority of women have said they don't feel comfortable.

But those women's feelings are completely ignored, it's not even mentioned really in the debate. Because women are ways expected to forgo their own feelings for the sake of men's.

To admit that women feel uncomfortable means admitting that men pose a risk to women and lots of people don't want to do that.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/01/2019 13:33

Does anyone like feminists?

Now there’s a question Grin

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/01/2019 13:31

Rejection innit? It’s why some men are so weirdly obsessed with lesbians

secureCompartment · 11/01/2019 13:31

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happydappy2 · 11/01/2019 13:30

secure and pricks it would seem.....

feministfairy · 11/01/2019 13:30

It was a bit tortuous to watch but the other 3 managed say what most women (except the woke Stacey) believe, that they don't want to share a hospital ward with men - transitioned or otherwise. Especially one who is masturbating as those poor elderly women had to endure in the incident mentioned in the article.

Men and women don't want mixed sex hospital wards. It is time that this was respected.

nauticant · 11/01/2019 13:30

Welcome to MN secureCompartment! I see from other posts of yours you don't like feminists.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 11/01/2019 13:29

But there are still cunts on MN.

Well yes. MN is full of women. And women are born with cunts so it's kind of a given.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 11/01/2019 13:28

Has always been the way. Actually not always. Women used to be revered because they gave birth.

ToeToToe · 11/01/2019 13:28

Is wanting private space away from men "hating men" ?

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