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Another day, another "She likes rough sex" defence

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QuentinWinters · 11/01/2019 09:03

This case sounds absolutely horrific

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/10/bristol-grime-artist-solo-45-andy-anokye-on-trial-for-22-rapes

He is pleading not guilty, I'm guessing his defence is going to be that these 4 women really loved being waterboarded, sprayed with bleach and threatened with shooting. Sad

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andyoldlabour · 25/01/2019 08:17

Shouldn't say this because it is totally so un PC, but the whole culture of that and similar music, the people who play it, the people who listen to it, is pure misogyny, violence and drugs.
This isn't easy to listen to but explains it.
You only have to listen to the terms that the proponents of this so called "music" use to describe women.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 25/01/2019 08:00

Convenient.

QuentinWinters · 25/01/2019 07:59

Delayed because the defendant is ill, apparently

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 25/01/2019 07:34

Does anyone know what is happening with this trial? Seems to have gone quiet.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 18/01/2019 11:59

Yes crafty that bit bothered me too.

And the usual setup of man prosecuting, woman defending, because then the jury will think that some women think this behaviour is normal.

I feel so, so sorry for the victims, having to have the jury shown intimate (wrong word, I know) videos of them being violently raped. I know they cleared out the gallery for it, but still.

thecraftyfox · 18/01/2019 10:03

This particular line from the defence has infuriated me
"She also urged jurors to consider inconsistencies in the crown’s case - asking if the recordings were of rape why would anyone consent to be in them?"

Well, if the man raped you why would he ever bother to get your consent to film it as well. It's not like he would have got a filming release form signed is it...

WomanDaresTo · 18/01/2019 09:55

This is absolutely horrific.

I noticed that the fact that women returned to him after the alleged rape/assault was used as sign that this was all consensual. Surely this is very normal part of domestic violence/intimate partner violence patterns - that women don't all run away and end all contact after an assault.

Huge plaudits to local Bristol Live reporter for reporting on this sensitively and in detail - often these cases just have a paragraph or two.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 18/01/2019 08:08

Wtf is with the bleach? That other recent horrific case involved bleach too. (Fuck I hate that I typed that sentence)

It's another layer of disturbing.

This is misogynistic terrorism.

ChattyLion · 18/01/2019 07:57

I literally can’t write what I hope happens to that man and all the other ‘she consented your honour’ perpetrators.

NottonightJosepheen · 17/01/2019 21:56

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Voice0fReason · 17/01/2019 21:34

It's horrific. The men who do this see women as objects for their pleasure. Just sending them to prison will never be enough to change that mindset.

NottonightJosepheen · 17/01/2019 20:54

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OlennasWimple · 17/01/2019 20:50

I wonder if gay men use them when hey go on a Grinder date? I will ask around...

Yes - well, I know two that do, anyway

Men know what men are capable of

feministfairy · 17/01/2019 19:29

I've just spotted this:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6603279/Privileged-Edinburgh-University-student-jailed-sex-attack-teenager.html

Not sure why he's crying after such a minimal sentence but at least the jury and judge didn't accept his 'she asked for it' defence.

HomerDancing · 17/01/2019 19:18

This is so horrific and scary. Well done on the women for coming forward

sarahjconnor · 17/01/2019 19:15

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 17/01/2019 19:08

" The first complainant used code words “did you get him a present?”, on the phone to her mum, indicating she was being held against her will, and police were called in, the court was told."

Sad So sad that women know they need to have a code word like this. Well done to the complainant and her mum.
QuentinWinters · 17/01/2019 18:00

Only read this if you have a strong stomach
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/live-solo-45-rape-trial-2408819

The defence says that "The fact that robust or rough sex may have been a feature of Andy Anokye’s relationships does not make that non-consensual."

I thought the law was that a person couldn't consent to harm, seems that only applies to men Angry

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picklemepopcorn · 17/01/2019 08:00

How can someone try and kid themselves, let alone anyone else, women consent to that?

What kind of person wants to do that to someone else- even if they are consenting (which I don't think is possible).

NottonightJosepheen · 17/01/2019 08:00

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indieshuffle · 17/01/2019 07:32

This is so incredibly awful. I heard it reported on BBC new the other week and the reporters comment after recounting the charges/ claims was that "he obviously pleads not guilty".

Well, yes, not many people confess even with overwhelming evidence against them so that may be obvious, but to me there was something in the reporters tone/speech that sounded like "of course he is pleading not guilty because this is just so extreme and unbelievable" Angry

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 17/01/2019 07:20

He actually says he's raping them. If he gets off with a Not Guilty verdict then there is no hope for anyone.

Purplewithgreenspots · 16/01/2019 07:16

I have nothing to say beyond I’m absolutely horrified. Flowers to those poor women and any other victims he has. I hope court isn’t too hard for you.

IamFrauBlucher · 15/01/2019 00:23

“Some of the best sex we’ve had is when I’m raping you.”

We've had? Jesus wept.

I hope they remain strong. Giving evidence, facing him, the jury hearing and seeing these films.

Thanks