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Penis News on Desmond is Amazing

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hackmum · 11/01/2019 08:58

Living up to their name as usual.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/01/06/desmond-is-amazing-drag-kid-gay-bar/

Plenty of people calling them out about it on Twitter.

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LassOfFyvie · 20/04/2019 22:05

That's an impressive autocucumber !

I feel slightly bad for pointing this out but Desmond isn't, actually, amazing. His dancing and cabaret skills are non- existent. He would not get a look in at a genuine stage school. The only amazing thing about him is his apeing of adult sexualised behaviour.

AnotherBewilderedQuoll · 20/04/2019 21:21

Oh good grief! "pineapples" = homeschooled, (autoincorrected)

AnotherBewilderedQuoll · 20/04/2019 21:18

Yeah I realised how weird that looked as soon as it posted. I was just thinking about Desmond performing at nightclubs, which would mean keeping him out quite late for a kid his age, and how that impacts his schooling, or if he's pineapples and so able to be more flexible about bedtime and study hours. .

PetuniaPetunia · 20/04/2019 21:04

"Also weird as- the approval and celebrations of dancing boys who perform at night, for men, in highly sexualised , alcohol (and drug) infused environments . Is Desmond home-schooled or something?"

What has that got to do with being home schooled? (I don't know if he is.)

Badgerthebodger · 20/04/2019 20:55

StopThePlanet would I be correct in assuming the mayor of NY is pretty woke? Because if so, I can see why this might be waved through without too many questions asked. This poor kid though Sad always looking so tired and so thin. It really upsets me to see a child who isn’t allowed to be a child. I mean, does he have any time to just run around a park? Watch a film with his friends? Does he have any friends his age? I’m not seeing any evidence he does. Horrible, horrible situation. It’s watching, at best, child neglect in action. At worst, it’s full on child abuse and sexual exploitation. I think his parents ought to be in prison.

StopThePlanet · 20/04/2019 19:28

their licensing laws permit children into night clubs

The laws vary by state but as a general rule, children are not allowed in establishments that serve alcohol unless they also serve food. Even if said establishment serves food if it is considered a nightclub/bar children are not permitted after a certain time in most states - children are not permitted in nightclubs/bars at all in some states.

Laws are even more varied when it comes to child performers. Here are NY's (for Desmond's Three Dollar Bill performance perspective).

New York (as per US Dept of Labor)
Updated Jan 2019

Models under 18 need permit from educational authorities/ Performer 16-17 needs employment certificate/ performers under 16 need permit from mayor or chief executive

To obtain certificates and permits need: written parental consent (exceptions for emancipated children), proof of age, and a certificate of physical fitness; separate procedures are in effect for New York City and for the remainder of the State. Sec. 7-7.1 Estates, Powers and Trusts Law - Courts may require a portion of earnings be set aside for the minor in a trust.

Source: www.dol.gov/whd/state/childentertain.htm

Considering the aforementioned, I wonder if his parents (1) obtained a permit from mayor or chief executive as he is under 16 and (2) followed protocol according to NYC re: physical fitness certificate etc.?

StopThePlanet · 20/04/2019 18:50

DancingRaven

I love that song by Hole (written by Kurt apparently)

That's a common misconception - Kurt did backup vocals for studio recording (so he somehow was thought to have written it) but Courtney Love and Eric Erlandson (lead guitarist) co-wrote the song (and many others). Smile

GeordieGenes · 20/04/2019 18:21

I wonder if they're looking fo an "I am Jazz" type show? Sad

AnotherBewilderedQuoll · 20/04/2019 18:10

Given American history and conservative attitudes to anything grog related, it's bizarre that their licensing laws permit children into night clubs. Also weird as- the approval and celebrations of dancing boys who perform at night, for men, in highly sexualised , alcohol (and drug) infused environments . Is Desmond home-schooled or something?

And, I wonder no I don't why so many people (not here, I mean on other sites) are happily blaming the mother but have nothing to say about the rather...interesting father who's just as eager about it all.

DancingRaven · 20/04/2019 11:42

I love that song by Hole (written by Kurt apparently) but wholly inappropriate for a child!

StopThePlanet · 19/04/2019 22:59

In the US child sexual exploitation (CSE) is defined/represented as follows:

Sexual exploitation can involve a range of crimes, including forcing or coercing a child/youth to participate in sex acts, pornography, street-based prostitution, internet-based exploitation, stripping, erotic massage, phone sex lines, interfamilial pimping, or survival sex. Some of these crimes may involve giving money or something of value to the child or another person. All of these acts take advantage of the imbalance of power between an adult and a child. This targeted exploitation, objectification, and violence is child abuse; it is illegal and has significant impacts for the victim, families, and the community at large.

StopThePlanet · 19/04/2019 22:56

I get that he likes to perform, lots of kids love the attention and like to perform. The content of performances matter - drag is adult entertainment. And having your kid perform at a bar any bar where cell phones must be checked at the door or carried around in a sealed bag cannot be a safe or good environment for children - regardless if they're allowed in the main bar area or not.

I enjoy drag shows when done well. When I go out with my friends we mostly go to gay/lesbian clubs... this isn't about gay people or lesbian people or even transgender people. It's about exploitation of a child.

One of the songs that Desmond performs is:

Asking For It

Every time that I sell myself to you I feel a little bit cheaper than I need to

I will tear the petals off of you Rose red, I will make you tell the truth

Was she asking for it?
Was she asking nice?
If she was asking for it
Did she ask you twice?

Every time that I stare into the sun
Angel dust and my dress just comes undone
Every time that I stare into the sun
Be a model or just look like one
Wild eye rot gut do me in
Do you think you can make me do it again?

Was she asking for it?
Was she asking nice?
If she was asking for it
Did she ask you twice?

If you live through this with me
I swear that I would die for you
And if you live through this with me
I swear that I would die for you

Was she asking for it?
Was she asking nice?
If she was asking for it
Did she ask you twice?

Was she asking for it?
Was she asking nice?
If she was asking for it
Did she ask you twice?

Song by Hole

I enjoy Hole's music but it is not for prepubescent children. The lyrics are intense - you can tell what this particular song is about - you don't need to read between the lines. Angry and painful exclamations of protest through adult concepts and phrasing should be above children's heads and are not meant to be performed by children.

Melroses · 19/04/2019 16:12

Jesus, I’ve seen the latest photos on KF and the arms on this child are so skeletal I wasn’t even sure they WERE arms at first..

His legs Sad

Melroses · 19/04/2019 16:08

I have that video too Confused

CallMeWoman · 19/04/2019 15:52

Anyone who claims we don't hypersexualise children in our society - have a look at the mainstream response to the blatant pimping of this child. This is appalling.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/04/2019 15:30

I don’t know if anyone else was getting a pop up of a film of a toddler running up to a drag queen (looks like they were in a supermarket) and handing him a dollar. What was that all about?

GeordieGenes · 19/04/2019 15:25

Is Desmond on puberty-blockers?

AlwaysComingHome · 19/04/2019 14:39

I won’t even post the pics here. They are quite distressing.

AlwaysComingHome · 19/04/2019 14:38

Jesus, I’ve seen the latest photos on KF and the arms on this child are so skeletal I wasn’t even sure they WERE arms at first..

Victoriapestis · 14/01/2019 21:02

I’ve only just become aware of this poor child and can barely believe even the most brainwashed journalist at pink news can’t see this for what it is. Why isn’t this being covered by eg Andrew Gilligan? Why isn’t it front page news? And what on earth has happened to New York child protection services if they think this is fine?

In my experience 10 year old boys like a huge range of things.

Gardening.
Cooking.
Minecraft.
Looking after animals.
Painting.
Tree climbing.
Pottery.
Star gazing.
Star Wars.
The PS4.
Museums.
Lego.
Writing stories.
Building dens.
Dr Who.
Reading comics and books.
Eating sweets.
And so on and on and on.
(All things that girls like too, not oddly at all.)

But in decades of parenting and aunting and godmothering I have never ever ever met a 10 year old boy who likes hanging out with adults, as the only child, wearing uncomfortable clothes, and dancing on bars. Who freely chooses to dance on tables for adults.

This poor little boy surely needs help and protection. Why is it acceptable to display him in this way?

GCSocScientist · 12/01/2019 09:02

Some parents don’t give a damn about their kids welfare. Most of us can’t fathom this.

Desmond is bringing in the goods and the pedos in drag culture are only happy to oblige.

AngryAttackKittens · 12/01/2019 08:54

It was the interview with Michael Alig that made me go, OK, what parent thinks that letting their child sit down with a convicted murder to talk about ketamine use is a good idea?

GCSocScientist · 12/01/2019 08:49

Sorry angrykittens, I didn’t mean that to be directed at you. My bad.

GCSocScientist · 12/01/2019 08:47

Desmond is being pimped out to male homosexuals (and others who hide behind that acceptable facade) by his parents.

He is typical of most sex workers, he and his parents are under financial duress. He is the only earner in his household (neither of his parents work) and therefore has even less agency as an impoverished young child.

That Pink news and Out can’t see this shows how dangerous mainstream LGBQT ideology is for children's rights and their safeguarding.

I’ve been a lefty all my life but this kinda stuff tips me right over the edge.

AngryAttackKittens · 12/01/2019 08:32

Don't blame me, blame Penis News.