Sandi Toksvig at the Lowry

Is Sophie walker back in the public eye now? She has begun tweeting a bit.

Quite a lot of people supported Hudson at the time, and have subsequently thought better of it. It would be good to know what Sandi thinks now - a simple question if by any chance she comes across the thread - will she now support the petition, preferably publicly, to review the prison guidelines?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/3408621-to-ask-you-to-sign-this-petition-about-women-s-prisons

didn't Sandi support Tara Hudson being moved to a women's prison? As I think there's a direct line from that action to Karen White, I'm not sure I can really forgive her.

I never saw Sandi's personal view on this but WEP most definitely did, and she represented WEP.

The thread back in 2015, where a lot of us were more or less pleading for reassurance that WEP didn't actually believe males should be in women's prisons and Sophie Walker eventually popped on briefly to say that yes they did, began as Sandi promoting WEP but with no apparent awareness that we might want to ask questions or have a discussion.

I lost some respect for Sandi then and I've lost just about all respect for her now, because she must be aware of what's going on and her comments suggest that she disagrees with it, but she hasn't had the guts to stand up with the Eight Pride Lesbians or with Jonathan Best et al and call Stonewall out for homophobia.

Was she talking about brain function and the stereotypes associated with men and women?
Such as men are better at parking, women are better at multi-tasking.

No but you would be right over 80% of the time so there is a statistically significant difference

If you were given casts of male and female feet you could probably categorise them by sex with a reasonably high degree of accuracy. This doesn't imply that there are sex-related differences in the way those feet work or in their general anatomy.

Brains differ markedly by sex at a chromosomal and hormonal level. This seems to translate into surprisingly few reliably observable differences (given current technology) at an anatomical or functional level.

Brain capability might have been what she meant

Sandi's also repeatedly stated on TV that lesbians do not do penis.

didn't Sandi support Tara Hudson being moved to a women's prison? As I think there's a direct line from that action to Karen White, I'm not sure I can really forgive her.

you couldn't take a brain and say it belonged to a female or a male

No but you would be right over 80% of the time so there is a statistically significant difference.

1 Waiting for a written report that can be verified.

2 Waiting for a walking back by Sandi T.

3 Waiting for denunciation of Sandi T by same people who evicted HBE without due process.

Either way, this shows how important it is for language to be precise and have actual meaning.

IANA scientist, but my understanding is that whilst men's brains may be bigger (as an example, I don't actually know), you couldn't take a brain and say it belonged to a female or a male.

Similar to how men tend to be taller than women, but if I gave you the height of a random person you wouldn't be able to say for certain whether the person was female or male based on that height.

Love Sandi but she's wrong about this! (As anyone with a whiff of scientific knowledge well knows. )

I thought there were differences, since DNA exists in all cells, including the brain cells. So if you have XY chromosomes you are male and therefore that is what your brain is, irrespective of how you feel about it.
I can't in all honesty say how differences between male and female chromosomes manifest in terms of how the brain works - I can't say I've noticed much of a difference between men and women that can't be traced to how we are socialised/ individual character differences.

Well, there are differences in typical/average size, in typical/average activity patterns and in the chromosomes within every cell. Does she mean different abilities?

(Looking at papers on brain research, whether physical or psychological, makes me Want to go and read something easier, like quantum mechanics.)

Lol fairy and dog!

Maybe Sandi is the WEPs parapet test head (after the unfortunate HBE business)...

I thought that Sandi T's vocal support of her transwomen 'siblings' was the main reason why WEP sits on the fence.

Sooo, what are the chances of a Twitter shitstorm so huge, people will be threatening to boycott/get her sacked from Bake Off, followed by a meek apology by the weekend?

Yeah lols sometimes this stuff makes me laugh with the just the pure bonkerness
It’s just so like. Well bonkers and just have to say it

A thread is not complete until littlbrowndog has added her comment - and made me laugh

Sad mind in wrong body 😧
Who has my body the fucker 🤣🤣

That's directed at everyone and especially sandi

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE MINDS TRAPPED IN THE "WRONG BODIES"

Move immediately to the gulag
Do not pass go
Do not collect £200