Veritas report due tomorrow (Thursday) at midday re: Aimee Challenor

I think they assumed ‘Baloo’ was an ethnic name and not some creepy furry fetish thing.

That FOI is incredibly worrying, not least because he is falsely claiming to be a Reverend as well as using a fake name. Surely, surely, being called Baloo would have given them pause?

Also Needmoresleep - Stonewall produced the trans guidance for the police which had to be rewritten as it contained fallacious information about what constitutes a transphobic hate crime.

Crisps - yes, the council supplied the information. I have seen it.

The FOI request is chilling.

Was this information provided?

The 'report' will be a whitewash good only for wiping one's arse with.

The important thing to remember after reading that shocking family background, is that AC is, from her twitter "Secretary @stonewalluk Trans Advisory Group" and well as vice-Chair of a Coventry LGBT youth group.

The same Stonewall that advises schools, government, charities and major firms on LGBT and diversity/equality issues, despite radically changing its lobbying focus and approach in 2015 when the "T" was incorporated into their LGB constituency. It is not clear how Stonewall's Transgender policy is formulated or adopted, or indeed who is on the policy Committee given that members are allowed to remain anonymous, but it is obvious that there are concerns not just for women, LGB's and indeed transmen and transexuals, about the focus and balance, but real concerns that the safeguarding of children and vulnerable people are not being taken on board fully, perhaps not even understood.

The KF thread is shocking, but more shocking is Stonewall's willingness to promote a 21 year old, with relatively few qualifications, into such a position of power and influence. I hope the Veritas report is such that Stonewall either review this, or face scrutiny.

(Not so worried about the LibDems given Layla Moran's ability to see into people's souls!)

I'm more interested in what the report says about the Green Party.

I know that sounds sanctimonious and it's also not entirely true - of course I'm curious. But it sounds like Aimee has exercised their Maxwellisation rights (or whatever they're called) to the letter. I doubt whether there will be much to see.

What I think might be more revealing is what comes out about safeguarding and decision making procedures within the Green Party, and about lines of accountability. And the way the party responds could be very interesting indeed.

Look, what Aimee did was very wrong, but they was also groomed by DC. DC is the bad guy. He is the one who committed this abuse and ruined so many lives. Aimee was just a child themself when it happened.

Aimee was also taken advantage of by the Greens, and I hope that this will be addressed in the report. The Greens used Aimee to score woke points. They didn't bother to check Aimee's background, abilities, and so forth. All they cared about was appealing to the trans community. I can see why Aimee went along with it. What teenager doesn't like to the that they're special?

Aimee is 19, I believe? And sadly, their life and career will be forever haunted by their father's abuse, their own terrible upbringing, the Green party's incompetence, and so forth. Let's have some sympathy and try to remember who the real culprits are here.

I stupidly read the kwiw farms thread on AC before I went to sleep. Not a good idea.

House of horrors.

I think what’s more interesting is the part of the email Aimee hasn’t screenshotted. That email includes a ruling made by the Regional Green Party on the case. Now why wouldn’t you want to share that!

I'm amused/disturbed by Aimee's description of American male lover, and Scottish transfemale polyamorous lovers as 'family'. Family?

The photo certainly shows an unusual family! A couple of decades ago the only time you would have seen that 'family' would be when they were standing on a station train spotting. No way would any of them be public figures or have any say in social policy. I'm all for inclusiveness but come on, should we really be giving any power to any member of this 'family'?

Wow Aspie that KW thread is very illuminating - so the father was looking for a specific child and used the FOI to find them - it seems as though officials dealing with safeguarding need to undergo predator training as they obviously aren’t competent to do their jobs without comprehensive knowledge of the lengths these types will go to plus their deviousness.

Whilst one can feel empathy for having an horrendously violent and sadistic father and the damage that brings to children- the facts are some will come out of it as abused and some will go on to be abusers.

When as an adult, one has enabled and taken part in wholesale abuse and targeting of many, many women - that behaviour has consequences and shouldn’t be conflated with over-empathy. Separate the person from the behaviour. People have the opportunity to self reflect and consider the impact of their behaviour - to apologise and make resistitution for harm done- that is the behaviour of someone contrite and deserving of forgiveness,
I have observed none of that behaviour from Aimee - quite the contrary.

Aimee has a separate thread on KiwiFarms as well.

I'm amused/disturbed by Aimee's description of American male lover, and Scottish transfemale polyamorous lovers as 'family'. Family?

The family that shits together sticks together?

One of the posters explains this curious request:

Can't say how I know this due to :powerlevel:, but with regards to that FoI request, it's been very cleverly worded to bamboozle the Council who should have rejected it. Essentially, by asking for variation in "places" rather than asking for data about children, it tries, and succeeds, in asking how many of these children (of whom there would not be many) are at each school rather than request any identifiable data about children (which would have seen it rejected). It is unlikely that more than a handful of these children are placed each year, so by watching the changes in figures he can work out what school a particular child goes to (which should make the request invalid, but the Council's FoI team were too dumb to figure out what he was doing.) He is not cruising for victims here, he is trying to find a specific child. He knows the target child is in that category, he knows those children are not placed often and he knows when the child he is looking for was placed, and when he has a breakdown by year and by school he can work out by process of elimination where that child goes to school. He is also asking for a bunch of irrelevant data (school type, other years) to cover his tracks and hide what he is looking for, and the Council fell for it.

Perusing Kiwifarms (I know, I hate myself) I learnt that ’Baloo’ Challenor made a Freeedom of Information Request for the locations of all the ‘Hard to Place children’ attending schools and academies in Coventry in May 2013.

This would have been just after his children (including ‘Aimee’) were taken into care.

Thanks for the heads up, OP

Someone's probably reminded AC that you're not meant to reveal info like this

I’m the victim of childhood abuse. It didn’t make me abuse a position of trust. Most abused women don’t go on to abuse their position of trust and we wouldn’t get an sympathy if we did. Funny that. 😒

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...and the tweets have disappeared.

Thanks, I'll be watching with interest

I'm sure Aimee is a victim of their upbringing. And that's where my sympathy is. But it has to end when it becomes damaging.

And, as an aside, I love it when lurkers post a comment. But when they actually start a thread, fucking fantastic. Cos I know it's nerve wracking, it certainly was for me.

Summary article of issues:

'IN ENGLAND'S GREEN AND PLEASANT LAND'
by Beatrix Campbell (Green Party member) Sept. 2018

www.byline.com/column/85/article/2300