Veritas report due tomorrow (Thursday) at midday re: Aimee Challenor

Para 3.29 does actually seem to criticise Aimee C. That's as far as I've got.

The report this far has some strange grammatical errors and ambiguities in it. How was it not repeatedly proof read?

Interesting that it begins with 3.1 - am I right in sssuming that sections 1 and 2 are being withheld from the public?

If you can’t be held responsible you shouldn’t hold a position of responsibility.

Responsibility means ‘the buck stops here’.

Interesting to compare paras 3.74 and 3.60-3.62. It is noted that Coventry Pride managed to do a much better job than the GP wrt safeguarding actions, but they let the GP get away with load of flannel about not having many professional staff. It would be interesting to compare the number of professional staff working for Coventry Pride and the GP ...

Aimee is clearly out of Aimee's depth, operating at such a level within an organisation. Aimee was hoping to be elected Deputy Leader, ffs.

Take note, Stonewall.

Why is Aimee commended for Being so stunning and brave to do what she should have done at the beginning of this shit show and actually inform the relevant people the pertinent information that her father was convicted??

As the investigation progressed, charges were made, defences prepared and the trial started more information would obviously be available and known by those close to David Challenor.

Coventry Pride's Safeguarding measures which were implemented were known to the Challenors including AC who held a position in the organisation.

To have not recognised what these were for demonstrates either a lack of competence or a reckless disregard.

Handily the main person criticised is no longer a member. How convenient.

Yet again reporting restrictions turn out to be the rapists’ friend.

Imagine if this had been a proper, belt and braces Serious Case Review as per social services. I think we would be reading something very different.

Oh, and another thing: even Veritas can work out that information sharing is key. So why are we allowing lobby groups into schools that recommend confidential disclosures and not sharing information with parents and other professionals?

WHY?

What a load of old shit.

1) the Greens didn't fail their safeguarding policies. They didn't have any. And nobody in the party had the slightest clue that they should have them

The number of people involved with politics and trans rights who clearly do not understand Safeguarding; what it is, why it is and how it works is astonishing.

That they then are involved in creating policies which impact Safeguarding is very serious.

That some with influence also assert, 'there's no Safeguarding risk' is dangerous.

No one else is handled with such Kid gloves!

Argh!!! I've had my fill of it today. Between Amy and Nottinghxm's fuxcking racist misogyny.

Oh, a third point:

3. This is what happens when your ideology is based in the middle class, navel gazing academy and it comes into contact with the real world. Titanic hits iceberg.

THIS IS WHY SAFEGUARDING MATTERS.

Why is Aimee commended for Being so stunning and brave to do what she should have done at the beginning of this shit show and actually inform the relevant people the pertinent information that her father was convicted??

That wasn't commendable, it was the base minimum any party member with responsibilities should have done.

Two main points occur to me:

1. the Greens didn't fail their safeguarding policies. They didn't have any. And nobody in the party had the slightest clue that they should have them.

2. Aimee's assertion that Aimee knew no details of the father's charges was given credulity immediately and not investigated at all. The various threads on here show that there is at least some doubt about this, so why was it not part of the investigation?

Sorry Ro that was point I was trying to make - you did it much better.

Sorry that should say that AC made bad decisions for those reasons. The other question is why AC was able to make those bad decisions - and it only briefly says her transition was a factor (although that her role was due to promoting diversity is acknowledged)

That’s as sanitised and apologetic a report as I’ve ever seen. Poor poor Aimee, difficult time, very hard for her, poor thing, excuses excuses.

No difficult questions asked. No one held to account

Let’s hope someone leaks the rest.

That point is glossed over DeRiguer in the emphasis that this was done for diversity reasons. The report raises many questions and sees the safe guarding problems, but - possibly rightly- sees these as going beyond AC herself. AC is not exonerated but it is framed as bad decisions due to inexperience, difficult circumstances and autism.

I do not like how autism is brought up here, my DS is autistic and so very much rule bound, whereas this seems a disregard for rules. An autistic person is an individual and must make judgements same as everyone else, particularly if they are in a position of office.

That said, I have only skim read it.

A question that wasn't asked or answered was how was such a young and vulnerable person allowed to gain a national spokesperson position within a few years of membership?

Aimee Challenor has been very influential as a TRA, in the Green Party, within Stonewall, in controlling social media and influencing policies.

The portrayal of Aimee Challenor within the report is at odds with this.

I thought it a fair review tbh, but the narrow scope of the enquiry is very evident is the report.

A question that wasn't asked or answered was how was such a young and vulnerable person allowed to gain a national spokesperson position within a few years of membership?

And the real person to blame is a woman.

I see that it’s just disappointing that Aimee did things and we do understand how difficult her position was...repeat ad Finitum.

Skipped through will read fully later. AC has autism them?

Interesting reading. I guess the GP will use this in a disciplinary process now with AC?

Although their processes and policies are shockingly lax. And it doesn't touch on the wider culture in the Party.

There is another report that's held within the GP but we will have to wait until it's leaked.