Silent Witness does transgender

I think it's a woman because of needing to drug people to overpower them

OK so who do we think did it?

Or would speculation spoil it?

Haha 😂
Just a story

Kind of upturns the concerns about trans women in women's toilets a bit doesn't it?!

You know it's a story, right?

Have none of you noticed the toilet thing?

Woman goes into dark toilet at night. We worry for her safety. She goes into men's loo as women's is closed. We all shout 'No!' at the telly. But in the next door cubicle, it's a trans man who's murdered.

Next victim is also attacked in a toilet. This time it's a trans woman- and she's attacked in her own (unisex) toilet in her own house.

Number three- a woman who is attacked, but not in a toilet at all.

And finally, a man is killed in a men's toilet.

Kind of upturns the concerns about trans women in women's toilets a bit doesn't it?!

I thought it was brilliant.

It was also really great to see trans people acting in trans people's roles.

The one thing I thought was unrealistic apart from the prof doing the swab etc was the idea that a uni dept would ask him to be head of faculty without a history of working in a uni. And then he thought he'd get a chance to do some teaching like his mum! Poor man- heads of faculty very rarely get a chance to teach. That job is all about management and balancing budgets.

Are you sure you're looking at the right episode, jessstan2? This is last night's episode:

Fresh from her trip to the States, Nikki and the Lyell unit are called in to investigate an attack against a transgender man. A transgender helpline had received a chilling phone call stating an intent to kill, and the call handler, a young, dynamic spokeswoman for the transgender community, helps with the investigation. When two further attacks are reported, one leaving a potential witness, it looks like the team are facing an outbreak of violence against the transgender community.

I saw the one where transwoman was killed in train crash, wife of army sergeant. It was very moving. Not seen one about subject since. Has there been one? Intend to see last night's today but saw nothing about trans issues on details.

Well at least there were no bare breasts on the slab in this episode. Makes a refreshing change.

I never know the names of actors except for the most famous (or infamous) so had no idea which, if any, were trans and which were acting at being trans. Frankly none of them were very good at it so it didn't do much to advance the cause as far as I'm concerned.

To be fair, it was pretty clear that the senior pathologist was under no illusions that the person in question was a man, he was just willing to use "she" out of politeness.

I do agree about the nonsense of the resources this private laboratory is allegedly able to devote to police investigations. I find it difficult to believe that any police force is willing to pay for a whole team of senior pathologists to run around being amateur detectives, and it's particularly ridiculous when they have them sitting in on or watching interviews with suspects.

Gawd there is so much vomiting in toilets

It’s an overused trope in drama. Very few people actually vomit in response to strong emotion in real life

But they made it clear that it wasn't a response to emotion, it was a response to something the baddy deliberately slipped them so that they would throw up and s/he could attack them whilst they were helplessly crouching over the loo.

I watched the Martin Clunes programme Manhunt on ITV anyway. It’s a reminder that women are a much more vulnerable group, and that it takes hundreds of police officers years to investigate a real crime, not a couple of CSI’s in their spare time, and when the police bungle it real people die.

Sounds mean but I think many of the roles last night were given on fitting a certain demographic rather than on acting ability and I really think it showed. The main part though went to an established male actor so in a way I think it makes people see that the ‘real women’ thing is ridiculous, as they will have seen Andrew Knott in lots of other stuff and already know him.

Interesting that it was 2004, the year the GRA came into force. Coincidence?

Its not the first time Silent Witness has done a trans storyline.

Episode called Body 21 from 2004

Body 21" Michael Crompton Douglas Mackinnon Danny Webb, Emma Cunniffe, Amita Dhiri, Eddie Marsan, Shaun Parkes 25 September 2004
26 September 2004 7.26
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The team are approached by the survivors of a major train crash, which resulted in the death of twenty-one people. Looking for answers as to who and what caused the crash, they ask Leo, Nikki and Harry to attempt to identify 'Body 21', one of the twenty-one victims who has yet to have been named. However, determined to investigate the actual cause of the crash by using backdoor methods, Leo begins to uncover a tangled web of lies. He begins to suspect that Army Major Mark Wiltshire is involved, after his stolen Landrover is what is known to be the cause of the crash, but an alibi places him in the mess hall at the time of the incident. Working with the survivor's group, the team attempt to re-create the layout of the train prior to the crash occurring. The investigation delves deeper when one of the surviving passengers commits suicide. Harry and Leo soon discover that the identification of the last victim could lead to revealing the cause of the crash, and that the solution lies on discovering an unknown romantic affair and a marital betrayal.

I tried to explain to my wife about his and she did'nt want to know about transgender stuff, so what do I do???
I thought that she had understood after the Martina shit but she hasn't!!!!!!!

So its ok to send hate on twitter? It's just twitter, right

Only if you’re TRA/MRA directing it towards females. Doing it the other way round would get you banned.

So its ok to send hate on twitter? It's just twitter, right.

You got that from this?

Disagreeing with them on Twitter isn't the same thing.

So its ok to send hate on twitter? It's just twitter, right.

There's a pretty ridiculous episode of Bones with a transwoman murder victim. All the scientific experts mindlessly agreeing that despite the clearly male skeleton the victim was really a woman because of the 'feels'...

I think it might educate a few people about the fact that trans women don't necessarily "transition" in any way?

I much preferred Bones. Bones had a sense of humour.

Lolz at the head pathologist just accepting that guy was a woman because he said he used female pronouns. Come on- doesn’t being a pathologist require medical training? It’s one thing to use and respect pronouns but I can’t see any doctor of that age (and with more brain cells than Dr Adrian Harrop) actually thinking the man is a woman.

Yeah. I was going to turn over at that point, but hung until the ‘feminist’ bullshite. I went “fuck you” and decided enough was enough. They can shove their ‘Witless Silence’ (thanks for that) up their pandering jacksy.

Omg @jenthelibrarian I always call it Witless Silence after the French and Saunders sketch. Nobody ever knows what I’m on about

Why did the guy who is head of the Important Path Lab get the suspect to strip off and bag his clothes?
Surely this is the job of some lowly police officer? Or even a civilian technician-type?
How come a huge team of expensive pathologists only ever work on one case at a time and are all on duty/at work all the time?
Why are all their scientific test results instant?
I'm finding Witless Silence increasingly rubbish.