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Silent Witness does transgender

143 replies

thatdamnwoman · 08/01/2019 21:41

Hasn't long started: guess we'll have to wait and see how it comes out...

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AspieAndProud · 09/01/2019 15:37

Also, I don’t believe that transwomen DO believe that feminists are violent. It‘s just a stick to beat women with.

AspieAndProud · 09/01/2019 15:35

Was it a trans character who said that?

waxy1 · 09/01/2019 15:13

“did she get any hate mail?... Far right groups, religious groups, some feminists."

It may not be true that feminists send hate mail, but perhaps it’s realistic that trans-sisters or their friends would say they do.

samsamsamsamsamsam · 09/01/2019 14:21

It's going to be the woman who was attacked off camera. The woman who was leaving the trans clinic.

Having said that I think there were a few reasonable statements in it.

'You identify as a woman although you have the body and experience of a man?'

' No one knows what anyone else feels, you only feel like you' (implying that woman-ness is more than a feeling)

However- no way will be bbc let the murderer be trans. No way.

AspieAndProud · 09/01/2019 14:20

One thing’s for sure, we aren’t going to get any trans criminals on TV in the foreseeable future. There’s going to be no Karen White story on the BBC.

CroneXX · 09/01/2019 14:10

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Melroses · 09/01/2019 14:02

Witless Silence is a good name.

InternetRandomer · 09/01/2019 13:56

Yes but of course that means it definitely isn’t.

As an aside it also looks like running a charity phone helpline pays quite well judging by that apartment Hmm

Neverunderfed · 09/01/2019 13:47

Wasn't it meant to look like it was Andrew Knott's character?

littlbrowndog · 09/01/2019 13:39

That is all I took from the programme

littlbrowndog · 09/01/2019 13:38

Of course Lang
Jobs a good un
Just a warning on the programme
There is a lot of vomit and ppl vomiting in it and then ppl delving into the vomit
There was murders but to vomit was just 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

SaturdayNext · 09/01/2019 13:37

Judging by Emilia Fox's wardrobe and the occasional glimpse they give of her flat, pathology is an extremely well-paid profession.

LangCleg · 09/01/2019 13:30

You can be anything at any time

Can I be Emilia Fox but only for bank account purposes?

ChesterGreySideboard · 09/01/2019 13:08

Fabulous.
I’m a man. Where is my pay rise?

littlbrowndog · 09/01/2019 13:07

Don’t need a frock
You can be anything at any time
Anything

ChesterGreySideboard · 09/01/2019 13:03

But surely once that actor puts a frock on and declares themselves to be a woman then, according to Stonewall, they are trans.

VickyEadie · 09/01/2019 12:42

heaven forbid that anyone pretends to be trans for a role in a film or tv show.

They appear to be stunned and shocked at the notion an actor might pretend to be something they're not.

KitsandCaboodles · 09/01/2019 12:26

I love how up in arms Transactivists get over people who aren't trans playing characters who are, but it's apparently perfectly fine for transwomen and AGPs to enter women's private spaces, so pretending to be someone you aren't in real life is perfectly fine, regardless of the cost to women, but heaven forbid that anyone pretends to be trans for a role in a film or tv show.

Iused2BanOptimist · 09/01/2019 12:24

"I think it's a woman because of needing to drug people to overpower them"

There was me worrying that nobody was bothering to test for norovirus or wash their hands. Grin

LangCleg · 09/01/2019 12:14

I think the writer is poking fun at/deconstructing the toilet 'debate'

Mate, it's a crime-based soap opera bearing no relation to anything to do with real life, including crime detection and the toilet debate. They've included a trans character in the same superficial way they include everything else.

What with it being a story an' all.

I hate to break it to you, but BBC crime writers aren't entering into pomo-addled, nothing actually exists and the only reality is discursive territory. They just want some gruesome crimes, some people chucking up in the loo, and Emilia Fox looking soulful. Nothing more deconstructive than that.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 09/01/2019 12:12

Well there seems to be a lot of stereotypical stock phrases used and a lot of unnecessary debate over who is a real woman/man and who is not. I doubt pathologists in real life would give a shit- they would just record in the post-mortem report that the deceased had undergone gender reassignment surgery.

As to why they are getting involved with live witnesses and interviewing suspects, I have no clue. The entire thing is farsical. They all seem to double as scene of crime officers too and all have unlimited time to waste chasing leads and going off on their own little ego-trips. Surely the police would just tell them to fuck off and do their jobs?

Skyzalimit · 09/01/2019 11:55

LangCleg

yes, obv I know it's a story- I think the writer is poking fun at/deconstructing the toilet 'debate' and as you said yourself,

I've been longing for a fictional crime show to sort out the toilet problemo once and for all

NotTerfNorCis · 09/01/2019 11:35

If it's a woman... could it be the wife of the tormented AGP? No actually, she was home when the last victim was murdered. It was beginning to look like it might be the blonde transwoman. I actually quite enjoyed it!

LangCleg · 09/01/2019 11:27

I haven't watched yet so I don't know. Will watch both back-to-back tonight. I've been longing for a fictional crime show to sort out the toilet problemo once and for all.

AAK - don't try and pretend your broomstick comes from Harry Potter. I know it's a Saggy-Titted Crone model.

AngryAttackKittens · 09/01/2019 11:21

In the Harry Potter films they have flying broomsticks, and thus I have decided that there's no need for me to ever buy either a car or a train ticket. Bet I get to work before you, Sky!