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Silent Witness does transgender

143 replies

thatdamnwoman · 08/01/2019 21:41

Hasn't long started: guess we'll have to wait and see how it comes out...

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BitOfFun · 09/01/2019 22:45
Silent Witness does transgender
BitOfFun · 09/01/2019 22:42

I'm watching this n catch up now, and I've got the subtitles on- the scene with Murray in prison is captioned Hmm

Also, there's just been a nice teaching point on the sexual ambiguity of wheat flowers 🤣🙄

drspouse · 09/01/2019 22:16

I always call it Witless Silence
I heard a vv well known forensic scientist speak and she called it Silent Witless.

ADropofReality · 09/01/2019 22:13

Just imagine if Witless Silence has portrayed a transwoman (let's face it, transmen don't get a look in) who had so much as had a defective rear light, let alone murdering. The TRAs would have swooped down and cried that this was demonisation of a vulnerable trans person; how dare they portray transwomen as anything but perfect angels.

But it's fine to portray anyone else as everything else.

PenguinRoar · 09/01/2019 22:04

Are we all wheat now? Hmm

PositivelyPERF · 09/01/2019 21:58

Oh. Spoke too soon. It was an evil, narrow-minded woman all along. Order has been restored to the BBC agenda!

Well I really didn’t see that coming. I’m sure they were itching to use the word feminist, but I dare say it was implied. 🙄

I'd guess the Beeb won't be screening Silence of the Lambs any time soon

Ohhh That’s such a transphobic film. I’m surprised it hasn’t been banned. 😁

GraceMarks · 09/01/2019 21:50

Oh. Spoke too soon. It was an evil, narrow-minded woman all along. Order has been restored to the BBC agenda!

GraceMarks · 09/01/2019 21:42

I think the second part is... a bit better? The actual prodecural stuff is still utter bs (pathologists don't take part in searches for missing persons) but the trans stuff isn't quite so much like a Stonewall training video this time.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 09/01/2019 21:28

Not surprisingly, Stacey Dooley weird sex all over the world lean heavily in favour of painting transgender prostitutes as poor hard done by.
To each they're own. But they've chosen that way of life.

Just had to interject here. No, I do not agree with that. All sex-workers are vulnerable to exploitation and horrific violence. Trans prostitutes are as much victims as any other form of prostitute and to say they have 'chosen that way of life' ignores many of the factors that pressure people into sex-work. It is sex-work that leads to a high murder rate of trans people in some countries. Not because the general public goes around being violent to trans people, but because the scumbags who use prostitutes sometimes subject them to the most horrendous abuse and sometimes kill them. Saying it is a choice is the lib-fem response to prostitution and it doesn't help anyone.

Ereshkigal · 09/01/2019 20:55

Is ‘knackered’ a gender now? I just can’t keep up.

A gender is whatever you think is a gender! There are as many genders as there are people in the world HmmGrin

BitOfFun · 09/01/2019 20:06

Aspie Grin

Ereshkigal · 09/01/2019 20:01

When do you reckon a fictional program, or indeed a documentary, will ever use the line, ‘some who people identify as trans, have AGP or use access to female area for nefarious reasons’?

I'd guess the Beeb won't be screening Silence of the Lambs any time soon.

AspieAndProud · 09/01/2019 19:47

Gender is what you go to bed as

Is ‘knackered’ a gender now? I just can’t keep up.

NewYearsNiamh · 09/01/2019 19:41

Agree PERF loooooong time coming.

Kemer2018 · 09/01/2019 19:21

Well, it is the BBC.
Opiate of the masses etc.
Not surprisingly, Stacey Dooley weird sex all over the world lean heavily in favour of painting transgender prostitutes as poor hard done by.
To each they're own. But they've chosen that way of life.
I don't want a so-called neutral broadcaster trying to subliminally brainwash the masses into thinking trans is normal, because it really isn't.
I'm sick of seeing it and it ruins TV (which is a bit shit anyway).

BitOfFun · 09/01/2019 19:13

It wasn't a detective with the gender/sexuality soundbite though: it was the AGP guy trying to "educate" his wife.

PositivelyPERF · 09/01/2019 18:42

Yes NewYearsNiamh, that is an actual FACT, unlike the threats from feminists. When do you reckon a fictional program, or indeed a documentary, will ever use the line, ‘some who people identify as trans, have AGP or use access to female area for nefarious reasons’? I’d say my youngest will be my age before that happens.

NewYearsNiamh · 09/01/2019 18:38

Aren’t there more trans people convicted of murder than there have been trans murder victims in the past 10 years? So it would be an interesting avenue. But the woketopia that is the BBC would never allow that storyline.

ChesterGreySideboard · 09/01/2019 18:27

Also, I don’t believe that transwomen DO believe that feminists are violent. It‘s just a stick to beat women with.

I think that some transwomen believe it because they have been told it so often and they have heard anecdotal evidence.

stumbledin · 09/01/2019 18:03

I am betting that the wife of the military man will be blamed even though he committed the crime. This is because he will say he was devasted by her unwillingness to accept him as a woman and enter a "lesbian" relationship!

Dont forget it is always women's fault even when they actually haven't done anything ...

And the heavy handed we have done the inhouse trans training makes it unbelievable in terms of what is said.

Quote from a review:

the dialogue, concerning as it does the topical issue of trans rights (including use of public toilets), is sometimes a bit too didactic. I can see that this might be necessary in our still unenlightened times, but it is a bit clunky to hear a detective utter a perfectly turned soundbite as if straight from a public health leaflet: “Gender is what you go to bed as; sexuality is who you go to bed with.”

woopdedoodle · 09/01/2019 17:13

Of course the whole show is total fantasy, from Ms Fox's wardrobe to the in depth involvement of the pathologists , it's all bunkum and to be honest I don't know why I watch it , habit I think.

Given that yesterday I heard a story about children who had been raped being let down by the lack of specialists to collect the samples needed to convict their attackers, the teams ability to galumph about every where is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. even if it is all made up.

But for all that,
at the mo my money is on the rather wane character who asks the police if they can tell they are not trans. They have only had about three lines so far, although they could get bumped off tonight.

GraceMarks · 09/01/2019 16:16

AspieAndProud no, it was the father of a trans character who had gone missing. It was really jarring and didn't feel at all like the sort of thing such a character would say.

waxy1 · 09/01/2019 16:00

Langcleg- Mills and Boon!

Someone’s gonna smother someone’s upturned apple cheeks with manly kisses. Mark my words!

LangCleg · 09/01/2019 15:51

Also, I don’t believe that transwomen DO believe that feminists are violent.

Of course they don't.

LangCleg · 09/01/2019 15:50

Well, thanks to the joys of working from home I took an hour and watched episode one. JFC. What a potboiler. Subtle as a friggin' housebrick. What is it about trans topics that brings out the purple prose in screenwriters and journos? Casting off my TERFy witchery for a moment, trans people surely deserve better than this facile Mills & Boon shit. I know it's just a tired old procedural but honestly.

There was a great deal of throwing up in toilets on screen but surely just as much at home with lines like these:

She's my ego, my id, my essence, my spirit.

Jesus wept.