Update on Canadian Ball-Waxing Case: Now JY Might Be Named!

A couple of aspects that the Kiwi Farms thread makes clear, which everyone should know about JY and these cases:

1. The Human Rights Tribunal process is wide open to abuse because there is no disincentive built in against vexatious suits or harassment. Anyone can bring a complaint at no cost, while no legal aid is provided to respondents.

2. JY has used this glaring loophole essentially to extort money from some of these women: JY brings complaint, then offers to drop it if woman pays JY $2,500. So JY bullies them sexually, legally and financially.

3. The women can't band together to share strategy and resources because of the gag order on JY's name and subsequent reluctance of Canadian news sources even to report on the case(s). They have no way to find each other.

4. There is some speculation that JY is specifically targeting women of color who work out of their homes. JY displays nasty racial animus in some of public posts ("curry-shoving crapheads" among other gems).

All in all, an obvious marginalized victim of terrible bigoted women, amirite?

The tribunal didn't see there was anything wrong in trying to sue 14 women to touch a man's penis? It's staggering and worth adding 14 women WHO MADE IT CLEAR THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH HIS PENIS

Datun nails it as usual. Bloody handmaids tale like. As if #metoo hadn't happened. Or, you know, the idea that consent matters.

The tribunal didn't see there was anything wrong in trying to sue 14 women to touch a man's penis? It's staggering.

JY's name can't be published because he applied for and was granted a gagging order. The judge said the respondents also had the right to apply for a gagging order but didn't do so.

JY's gagging order hasn't been lifted. The judge said it was an interim order and a decision would be made to lift it or not after the hearing, which never took place:

[31] One of the reasons that I granted the publication ban on an interim, rather than a permanent, basis was that JY’s application did not allow me to fully understand her privacy interests in respect of the complaint. The intent of the order was to confer protection on JY up until the hearing, at which point I would receive evidence under oath and be in a position to make findings of fact about JY’s gender identity, both as it is experienced privately and expressed publicly. This would allow me to make an informed decision about whether JY’s privacy interests in this complaint outweighed the public interest in knowing her identity. Of course, the complaint never reached this stage.

[32] The Individual Respondents’ application requires me to make a finding of fact that JY has misled the Tribunal. I cannot make that finding based on the evidence before me. I find it significant that JY has been representing herself throughout this complaint, including in her application for a publication ban as well as on the September 5 conference call. A selfrepresented person is not trained to express themselves in the clear manner that the law requires. I note that JY’s submissions with respect to the publication ban were very brief, in a context where it appears that her gender identity, public profile, and motives in respect of this complaint are complex. It may be possible to reconcile what she has told this Tribunal with the truth. That was an exercise I had purposefully left for the hearing, at which point I could assess JY’s credibility based on testimony given under oath and elicit questions to the answers that the Individual Respondents now raise. In the meantime, I take notice of the fact that transgender and gender non‐conforming persons face high levels of stigma and are at an increased risk of violence, harassment, social isolation and discrimination. In these circumstances, I am satisfied that it is better to err on the side of caution in protecting a transgender person who asserts that the publication of their name in association with a complaint may expose them to harm. Doing so on an interim basis had minimal, if any, impact on the integrity of the Tribunal’s process.

So I don't think the reporting restrictions will be lifted until there has been a hearing - presumably on the next case in the pipeline. Of course JY could well withdraw that complaint too, or all of the complaints (if he has any sense at all).

I don't know how the BC human rights tribunal works and whether it would be possible for the respondents in this case to apply for an order specifically to lift the gagging order after the case has closed.

Is there a way to get the Kiwifarms thread to the women JY tried to sue? His will help their case hugely.

Wow !
JY !
What is it that Sarah Palin said ?
And that photo of the make up remover wipes.... not applied with a trowel but a very novel applicator.

What's more, the decision assumes that JY's status as a transgender woman automatically gives JY a special right to keep "her" name from being published for at least a temporary period as originally granted, but does not extend the same right to the defendants (presumably because they are not transgender).

How do they know they're not transgender? Have they asked them all what their pronouns are? Maybe some of them are women who don't believe in gender only sex so they'd be agender. Double standards galore. Funny how those double standards are always in favour of the bigger, stronger XY individual.

The decision treats as entirely credible JY's claims that he's a vulnerable woman from a marginalized class who has been discriminated against, citing as evidence that JY "uses a female name and attends a women‐only gym." (Yikes!)

Can someone help me out here? Are we assuming the person who wrote this has not seen what JY writes about little girls? Would that have been considered prejudicial?

I'm assuming that no one thinks, for a single second, that someone could write that whilst knowing what JY is actually like.

Is it because it hadn't yet become public knowledge?

Is this individual, who is so widely known for the ball waxing incidents, also the person boasting about getting Meghan Murphy banned from twitter?

Tis, indeed. Charming individual.

Apparently JY was joining women's FB groups and asking them pretty disgusting questions on his usual topics.

archive.li/KcxBH

Oh god the posts about him advising little girls about how to use tampons is absolutely sickening. I hope this case moves forward now.

Oh my god. This is the Kiwi link, showing this person's tweets. Unbelievable.

Yes sorry it was somewhere on the KF thread.

The application to reopen the complaint is granted. The application for costs is denied.

The impression I got was that the case was reopened just to consider the matter of costs. I can't see how this case can proceed if the complainant is no longer complaining.

Power and Paradis hired a lawyer

This tiny sentence gives me an enormous sense of satisfaction. Itseems to me a pervert has prodded the wrong people with his seemingly vexatious, frivolous, egregarious and false claim. I hope they tale it all the way.

The screenshot posted by MilesAwayGirl of the wipes asking if anyone used them, I think that was posted (by JY) to a teenage girls chat forum.

Is this individual, who is so widely known for the ball waxing incidents, also the person boasting about getting Meghan Murphy banned from twitter? Their self publicised stunts will be their downfall. I sincerely hope someone recognises them next time they photograph themselves in the ladies loo, with young girls in the background-JY should be kept away from children for sure.

They really have lost the plot in Canada. Let's not bring quite this degree of batshit here.

Veg, hop onto KiwiFarms and have a read through the ultra long JY thread.

You'll need eye bleach and plenty of cups of tea to get through it, but it is pretty much all there.

Don't you just love it when karma bites someone right on the arse?

Seems to me JY's complaints are the textbook definition of frivolous, vexatious, egregious & false.

Thirding that.

I am glad that MTL has asked to have this case re-opened: sunlight is the best disinfectant. Yaniv wants it all ways: to be identified as trans, to be identified as male, to be identified as female, to be considered a private figure and to be considered a public figure.

Let this this be the beginning of the end of Yaniv's poisonous antics.