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Sunday Times covers Paedophiles on Twitter

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VickyEadie · 06/01/2019 09:45

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-flood-of-twitter-users-back-paedophilia-qxjfddxv7

I don't subscribe so can't do share token.

However - those of us who do use Twitter are aware of the onslaught there has recently been on self-proclaimed paedophiles on Twitter. It's very worrying indeed - these people are demanding 'acceptance'.

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noblegiraffe · 06/01/2019 20:27

They can be added to the LGBT umbrella, and then they can march at Pride. See how that goes.

VickyEadie · 06/01/2019 20:25

GTFO with putting paedophilia under the LGBT umbrella. There is no sexual and human right to enable any adult to sexually abuse and rape children.

Currently on Twitter, the defenders of those demanding 'acceptance' of Paedophiles within LGBT+ are bleating "Don't you want them to get help?" As if "help" can only be "got" if the P is normalised via acceptance.

We fucking see them.

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NewYearBetterHealth · 06/01/2019 20:22

Here we go news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8611279.stm

Reduces reoffending by 70%!

NewYearBetterHealth · 06/01/2019 20:19

I seem to remember a radio 4 program about befrienders of convicted paedophiles. And the surprising thing was that befriending, and family support dramatically cuts reoffending. Those whose families cut them off (my inclination in theory) were almost certain to reoffend.
So it makes sense for non offending paedophiles and hebephiles to have a support network, have people they can be honest with, so children don't get hurt.
However, twitter and other public forums are not that place.
I am utterly disgusted with Twitter. Child abuse does not need normalising.

ChattyLion · 06/01/2019 19:40

GTFO with putting paedophilia under the LGBT umbrella. There is no sexual and human right to enable any adult to sexually abuse and rape children.

AngryAttackKittens · 06/01/2019 18:07

4chan is amorphous and anonymous and therefore it's difficult to prosecute on the basis of anything discussed there. I'm guessing that if a bit of digging was done some less anonymous, more trackable sites where this was orchestrated could be found.

Vegilante · 06/01/2019 17:59

noblegiraffe The article says “It is believed that the deluge of anonymous pro-paedophilia accounts on Twitter was orchestrated by users of the controversial message board 4chan.”

The phrase "it is believed" is a fudge. As discussed in the extensive thread here about MAPs on Twitter from the past few days, it's not clear what's going on. The Times needs to dig a bit deeper.

TimeLady · 06/01/2019 17:33

Good comments underneath the article

ToeToToe · 06/01/2019 13:22

I've just been discussing this with DH - and I said 'so, how was the PIE thing in 70s stopped?' and he said 'well, a load of them were arrested, weren't they?' And indeed they were - Peter Righton, for example.

DH has (v carefully) googled it - this article was published in 2014:
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/looking-back-to-the-great-british-paedophile-infiltration-campaign-of-the-1970s-9155610.html

Exactly the same tactics going on here. PIE never really went away. Getting the "P" added onto the LGBTQ alphabet soup... exactly the thing the PIE were trying to do in the 70s - attach itself to a libertarian/minority rights movement. They centred the campaign on "child's rights" - as opposed to campaigning for adults to have sex with children - which is far more likely to have the public up in arms.

But it is always about normalising children having sexual relationships, and abolishing the age of consent - and claiming that paedophilia in itself is not harmful. "NOMAPs" is just the latest incarnation.

Note that O'Carroll was brought down by a News of the World exposé - I was among those cheering at the demise of the NOTW - but you know, that sort of investigative journalism is still very much needed.

AngryAttackKittens · 06/01/2019 13:01

They mean lolicon/shota. Which, sure, technically there are no children involved since it's drawn or animated, but in terms of normalization it's pretty damn dangerous.

FamilyOfAliens · 06/01/2019 13:00

”Just a reminder that not all CP [child porn] involves children being abused.”

They think there’s such a thing as “child porn”? They’re disgusting.

GCAcademic · 06/01/2019 12:45

Cantor is based in Canada. What the hell is going on in that country?

AngryAttackKittens · 06/01/2019 12:37

Is Cantor pro TRA too? His name seems familiar.

And yes, many of us warned that this would happen. TRAs have created a blueprint for manipulating public opinion and pushing organizations into altering their policies that other groups can follow, and now they are. This thread will most likely get deleted, because it's apparently against the spirit etc. to point out that pedos are using the same tactics even though there's evidence of pedos discussing among themselves how they plan to use the same tactics.

The only solution that I can see is for the general public, and organizations, to learn to recognize manipulation when they see it and start saying no. Not getting what you want, when what you want would harm others, makes you sad? Too bad.

Purplewithgreenspots · 06/01/2019 12:37

If these people achieve their aims of getting into our women only spaces its absolutely terrifying.

Only yesterday I went to a swimming pool where everyone (note - mainly men) wash at the poolside after their swim. One man was fiddling around inside his shorts and a lifeguard told me that was fine when I complained.

MarilynSlumroe · 06/01/2019 12:33

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BN1Bod · 06/01/2019 12:28

Yes, twitter is looking horrible right now. Lots of #map and #nomap posters who are up front about what age children they are sexual attracted to.

Yet I've just been suspended merely for saying "Jon×××××× Yanxx is a man who talks about young teenage girls a lot".

The silencing of GC women who are concerned about safeguarding children, compared to the free rein paedophiles seem to be allowed is quite frankly horrifying.

MarilynSlumroe · 06/01/2019 12:26

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gendercritter · 06/01/2019 12:15

Holy shit at that quote

gendercritter · 06/01/2019 12:15

Obviously they could be lying about their own ages - but if not - since when were teenagers part of paeophile rings as the perpetrators?

Honestly that doesn't surprise me. Realistically, there are male teenagers raping their siblings and people they're at school with. Kids are getting raped at school every week. Some of those boys will be paedophiles although I'd like to think it's a very small number. If you're a paedophile it is probable that you have those feelings from as soon as you're aware of your sexuality and yes I'm sure some of those people will have been groomed and will be victims themselves but many won't be. It's not even comfortable to write that but it's the truth.

PencilsInSpace · 06/01/2019 12:12

e.g. there was an academic only the other day, who was publicly saying he though the "p" should be included in LGBT. (Who was he, can anyone remind me?)

James Cantor.

Sunday Times covers Paedophiles on Twitter
nauticant · 06/01/2019 12:12

e.g. there was an academic only the other day, who was publicly saying he though the "p" should be included in LGBT. (Who was he, can anyone remind me?)

twitter.com/JamesCantorPhD/status/1071499969910198274

There will be some trolling but twitter is genuinely being used to push the paedophile agenda. It really is a repeat of PIE from 40 years ago.

timetostepup · 06/01/2019 12:06

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noblegiraffe · 06/01/2019 11:47

The article says “It is believed that the deluge of anonymous pro-paedophilia accounts on Twitter was orchestrated by users of the controversial message board 4chan.”

So fake.

timetostepup · 06/01/2019 11:36

Lots of the MAPs on twitter seem to be really young.

This one for example is 19. (His twitter bio says his AOA is "idk just love who ya want ya know? Don't have to make things so difficult " )
twitter.com/GugleNOMAP

The youngest MAP I've seen on twitter is 15.

Obviously they could be lying about their own ages - but if not - since when were teenagers part of paeophile rings as the perpetrators?

Are they being groomed? Are they getting this from porn networks? Where is this coming from?

CallingDannyBoy · 06/01/2019 11:36

Thank you AornisHades.

It’s astonishing and frightening that they are so open and brazen about it. Linking up with others who think in the same way and the numbers who are being so open must be normalising it for them. Frightening times.

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