Redefining womanhood

Someone should have responded to the tweet Failing posted with "women" with penises are delusional.

Is it hopeful thinking or has the tide rather firmly turned, at least in terms of the general public's willingness to tolerate this nonsense?

(Unfortunately the political class is as usual significantly behind public opinion.)

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Congratulations!

The comments are great.
I just gave birth a few days ago and consequently am very in touch with my womanhood at the moment. In fact, every time I sit down. Maybe I should send a message to Munroe.

Redefining "woman" is not a hate crime, per twitter.

Redefining "transwoman" is, per twitter.

If you want to know where the power is, look at who you are not allowed to criticize.

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Womanhood isn't your breasts or the size of them. It isn't your vagina or womb or whether you can bear children. It isn't your menstural cycle. It isn't the dress or the jeans you may chose to wear. It isn't the pitch of your voice and it isn't your taste in music or movies.

I guess it must be the facial feminization surgery then.

For many, of all political persuasions, there are no shades of grey but I would say that the The left in particular is guilty of having all who regard themselves to be of the left engage in right think on all subject and will be extremely quick to denounce anyone from their own side who doesn't do so.

The mess we currently find ourselves in illustrates this constantly, hence how we can have activists from the left who have campaigned for social justice and equality all their lives be denounced as fascists/terfs/worse than Nazis and the KKK /insert-current-beyond-the-pale-insult-here because they dare to even question the genderist position let alone call it out for the utter bs that it is.

One would think that denying objective reality would be an obviously ridiculous position for anyone to take but it would appear not....

I am a liberal leftie, I should be supporting this in theory

Why? Being a 'liberal leftie' isn't automatically synonymous with denying objective reality, is it? Being a 'liberal leftie' doesn't necessarily mean you have to rate males like Munroe above women in the 'relative oppression' stakes.

being some complex = being SO complex. Ruddy autocorrect.

Ever read Chump Lady's blog, Hey ?

It's an interesting parallel. She talks about the behaviour of men having midlife crises with so many of them having a very similar script. Two phrases of hers that I think of a lot is 'untangling the skein' where a woman uses up a huge amount of mental energy and headspace trying to figure out the tortured, impenetrable mystery of why he does the things he does and that there must be a reason and meaning to it in there somewhere. Instead of realising it's a) purely because it gets attention and headspace and validates fantasies about being some complex and b) a case of wtf is she bothering?

And 'cake' - the attention and feelz cookies that reward an action and the mess it creates.

Agreed KnickKnack - I couldn't understand how they could get it all so wrong and would get radge at their lack of logic and grasp of reality.

No point. It's a faith based position and I don't think you can reason people out of it.

I admire those who lay out the arguments for the lurkers though - all of you have the patience of a saint!

I used to read this batshittery and starting thinking (or saying here) yes, but, and logically dissect it, and debate it - I suppose back then I still had some lingering belief that these were rational people who somewhere, somehow, had a point, and negotiation and explanation would get us somewhere.

After much bitter experience, my response now when I read something like this (or from LM who excels at this) is to think this person is deranged and has come out with something else deranged, on purpose to get a good reaction, and look sadly at the sheer number of people running around rewarding it by still trying to engage with utter batshittery as if there's something there worth arguing with.

Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true

More twitter delusions

What on earth is Munroe thinking calling minors honey and telling them to message privately???

Eggsactly...what IS Munroe thinking?

What on earth is Munroe thinking calling minors honey and telling them to message privately???

Once again tedious goady narc is a tedious goady narc.

Reality will still be reality no matter what ridiculous pronouncements MB farts out on Twitter and the reality is that you can't change sex and woman is an adult human female.
The end.

A person who has undertaken a range of surgeries to make themselves look as much like a (stereotype of) woman as possible, wears (stereotypical) women's clothes, uses lots of make-up - all in a concerted attempt to make themselves look as much like their own vision of 'woman' as possible: is saying here that it isn't about any of those things, nor is it about biology.

Yeah...scratching my head here.

I reckon we need to start redefining manhood. What's sauce for the goose etc

I dont think it will work

Men know that it doesnt matter if the word is taken away from them...makes no difference to who holds the power, they wont be knocked off their number one in the hierarchy and most men will just ignore it...completely!

Womyn know that it will matter if its taken away from them

I reckon we need to start redefining manhood. What's sauce for the goose etc.