Redefining womanhood

Just went to place an order on Amazon and realised that the charity that I had chosen to benefit from the cashback scheme they run was UN Women. Have changed that to a local women's aid shelter now, which seems a more women-focused charity.

There is a direct correlation between thinking women = non-men and men thinking that the word women means whatever they say it does.

Same old misogyny, but this one wears extensions and bras

Thinking about this newest attempt by a misogynist TRA to redefine woman & womanhood "out of existence", I was reminded today that back in the dark ages when I was in uni, I wrote an article for my school's alumni magazine about odd & funny things you could find in the library. One of the anecdotes concerned what I found when I looked up the word "man" & "woman" in the card catalogue (this was circa 1979-80):

The card "man" had a long list of items, starting with anthropology & art & going right through civilization, culture, engineering, humans, mankind, science & so on.

The card "woman" said only this: see also mothers, prostitutes/whores.

The editor thought I was making this up, the result of my feminist axe to grind, so he sent a photographer to shoot pics of the cards, which were exactly as I'd described. The photo of the cards was prominently featured in the story, which was written in a lighthearted way & turned out to be pretty funny. As a result, I got a lot of letters from alums (all male because the school had only recently admitted women) saying, (paraphrasing), "I never understood what you women's libbers were complaining about. But seeing those two cards, maybe you gals have a point."

This is the sort of history & "lived experience" that boobs-for-brains Munroe B can't even imagine.

I hate the whole "words change meaning over time, get over it"

"Womanhood is whatever we want to define it as but we can't define the word woman because we'd be forced to admit that without referencing biology we're only left with stereotypes"

True, it's closer to civil libertarian than humanist, but the Libertarians have really screwed that pooch and no one knows what civil libertarian means any more.

Feminism is the advancement of women's rights and standing in society.

I was looking up TehBewilderness's rules.

5th rule of misogyny: WATM! [What about the Men] Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

That seems to fit.

'Feminist = a person who believes in & stands up for the political, economic, and social equality of human beings.

Actually, that's the definition of a humanist, not a feminist, but I guess working for women's rights doesn't mean anything unless men get something too, right?'

That's not a definition of a 'humanist' ('Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence over acceptance of dogma or superstition') - 'egalitarian' maybe.

Defining 'feminism' without using the word 'female' or 'woman' is ridiculous.

Feminist = a person who believes in & stands up for the political, economic, and social equality of human beings.

Actually, that's the definition of a humanist, not a feminist, but I guess working for women's rights doesn't mean anything unless men get something too, right?

Look who chipped in...

It's delusional and insulting.
Womanhood means something and it doesn't involve a penis.

I'm not logged in so no blocklists would apply, and it's overwhelmingly anti TRA talking points in the responses.

Really hope so Hey About time these monumental gaslighters got their arses handed to them on plates.

That is good to hear!

I’m never sure with twitter threads how to gauge the ratios of buying tra ideas:rejecting them as being on blocklists means I have no idea about how many “pro” comments I’m missing!

Interesting to look at these tweets alongside ones like '"You're a paedophile. I don't trust you around kids" is the equivalent of saying "You're a straight male. I don't trust you around females"'

A similar disdain for fact-based evidence.

Well, think of what might happen if any kind of real female solidarity was ever achieved. Realistically it actually is the biggest threat to the way most societies have worked for the last few thousand years that there is.

Bloody hell, even the UN....

It's staggering how overwhelmingly threatening it is to the male species that even while humanism and egalitarianism and vegetarianism and many, many other political and social choices are free for people to make (often belonging to multiple groups) the mere existence of there being a focus on women by women is so threatening that apparently even the UN believes it must be redefined right away from women and it made taboo to even suggest anything should ever centre women. Naughty women actually trying to discuss or address their own interests!

The responses really are almost unanimous in their rejection of Bergdorf's waffly pomo nonsense. Must come as a bit of a shock to someone used to fawning admiration.

I reckon we need to start redefining manhood. What's sauce for the goose etc.

Isn't that already covered by the destroying of toxic masculinity?

We've already seen the advent of the 'new man' in the past few decades and all that's seemingly done is create a load of woke bros.

Speaking of definitions, UN women defined feminism for us

UN Women
@UN_Women
Feminist = a person who believes in & stands up for the political, economic, and social equality of human beings.

mobile.twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1081469111975272448

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I definitely think the tide has turned, Angry. More people are now aware of the nonsense being spouted, and more are openly criticising it.
Whenever I look at the comments following trans pronouncements, whether it’s on Twitter or in a newspaper, I see that the vast majority are anti.
The delusions are pointed out, the definitions questioned, the safety of girls and women mentioned. There is a healthy dose of feminist scorn against the mansplaining of transpeople trying to appropriate and define women.
More people are quoting specific cases and evidence, such as the rapist “Karen” White and the male bodied trans cyclist who entered a women’s race to compete unfairly.
I doubt anybody outside the woke trendies ever supported this fiasco, but now the silent majority of sensible citizens are waking up to what is going on and are making their views known.

Is it hopeful thinking or has the tide rather firmly turned, at least in terms of the general public's willingness to tolerate this nonsense?

The sentiment seems to have shifted, but that could also just be the Internet's tendency toward anarchy.

Or maybe it's just becoming clear this isn't just a matter of playing nice with others.

I understand something of how hashtivists link up and support each other in the imposition of "social justice", and why the War Against WrongThink has been semi-successful on twitter. I don't know why they don't know trying to impose a system of thought on people with real lives will just piss people off.