Transwoman complains at delay in NHS hair removal treatment

My Nan has had her cataracts surgery postponed/cancelled/rescheduled 3 times since October.
She’s essentially blind right now.

Screw you and your beard

NEXT!

I was interested reading this because just 2 years ago I'd have read that and thought 'that's so awful. She's been born in the wrong body and how terrible to have to wait for even the most basic help to correct that. She must be suicidal with it all.'

Yeah, no. The narcissism just drips out of the article doesn't it? It's heartening to see the comments

I have a 50k bill to pay over a few years for treatment the NHS refuses to fund despite the fact it's for a pretty limiting medical condition and the surgeries are life-changing. People with the same condition very occasionally get funding but most don't and some of those people are really disabled by it. My surgeries should prevent me reaching that level of disability and suffering complications and needing care.

But more recent research suggests it may be the result of abnormal development when a baby is in the womb, possibly due to genetic or hormonal factors.

The first signs of the condition can appear at an early age through a child refusing to wear clothes typical to their gender, or refusing to take part in boys’ or girls’ activities."

FFS. So "boys' or girls' activities" (did I miss a meeting and wake up in 1959?) are predetermined by genetic or hormonal factors? And this is the shit that people who think they are progressive are arguing?

Ten years ago when I was first reading MN, it was full of people who were well intentioned but a bit naive saying "it's fine for my son to wear a dress to school, isn't it?" and being told "yes, if he wants, but there may be social consequences". Now it's "has (s)he considered surgery?" This is not progress.

In the meantime, normal people pay for that choice.

Give them enough rope and they are hanging themselves. Talk about peak transing the nation! Good girl keep going.

My son is currently having to wait 6 months for his speech and language referral. There are people waiting longer, much longer, for life saving surgery.

I am curious to know why she needs to shave twice a day?! Does it really grow that fast?!

That article must be designed to peaktrans people. Maybe the Mail have realised they whip up more outrage and more clicks if they present a faux-sympathetic angle? Maybe they don't dare to openly offend the trans lobby? It's quite interesting how subtle they're being about it compared to their usual style!

This is ridiculous.

I think I'm actually more incensed by the awful 'What is Gender Dysphoria?' infobox that goes with the article.

"Its exact cause is unclear and was initially thought to be psychological.

But more recent research suggests it may be the result of abnormal development when a baby is in the womb, possibly due to genetic or hormonal factors.

The first signs of the condition can appear at an early age through a child refusing to wear clothes typical to their gender, or refusing to take part in boys’ or girls’ activities."

Complete with signposting to fucking Mermaids. I guess when I refused to wear pink as a four-year-old girl I should have been transed.

I did to be fair get 20% off

But i needed extra treatments so it kinda cancelled itself out

Women usually sort their own hair removal out women with pcos don't get laser treatment priority menopasal women don't get hair removal priority, yet this snowflake is whinging to the papers go pay for it! Jesus wept

This is the worst rated comment on the DM site. I wonder if it is meant to be sarcastic

MarxistCorbynite123, Welwyn Garden City, United Kingdom, 3 hours ago

She seems like a great person. Its a shame that transgender people suffer in this manner. If only the conservatives would fund the NHS properly

Pcos here as well

Self funded hair removal and shaving here as well

Mine is very low level, just a slight excess of hair...goodness knows how other womyn manage who have a lot more hair

So much of this is based on the false statistic that 48% of trans people attempt suicide.

We need to encourage the government to prioritise proper research led by scientists rather than by a biased pressure group so we could find out the true figures.

There would be a paradigm shift in the way the whole debate is framed. As a direct result the NHS would save millions over the coming years and hundreds of children would escape a lifetime of unnecessary medication.

considering the wait we have had for various conditions I think three months is nothing really and I have very little sympathy considering the serious things other people are waiting for.

26 months wait for a disability assessment here.

The fucking inability to see how ridiculous this complaint is by the complainant is mind blowing. It is all me me me.

To paraphrase JFK:
‘Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.’

Like others on this thread, I have paid a lot of money for private hair removal, after years of misery and being told there was nothing the NHS could do for me. Why is women's distress at this issue considered unimportant enough that they have to pay for it while men with the same issue get treatment for free?

Amazing isn't it? I watched the debate at the time and I think LM meant it as a light-hearted quip (there were chuckles), but she was dead serious when she spoke about her soul-seeing ability.

What a time to be alive, Professoress, when Hansard reads like a Monty Python sketch.

I had to go private for a hysterectomy that was life changing. I was living on painkillers and rarely left my house for three weeks every month. No bedding without blood stains and could only wear black from the waist down. Nhs won't fund hysterectomies because they only affect cunty women.

But sure cry because you're 'brave and stunning' and are too tight to pay for your own hair removal

I have pcos. I have paid privately for electrolysis and laser removal. Their sense of entitlement is unbelievable.

And yet my friend's sister cannot get reconstructive surgery after
breast cancer and mastectomy due to the funding being cut and is having to crowdfund.

Mind fucking blown

Wow. Poor love having to wait for free treatment for something a natural born woman or whatever the heck we’re called now would have to fund themselves.

Meanwhile I’m on a ridiculously long waiting list to see a Spinal Surgeon so I can be listed for a Spinal Fusion and I’ve managed to not go crying to the press whilst I slowly lose my ability to walk and now take 168 tablets a week to function

She did indeed, GC!

I believe that women are women, so if that person was a trans woman, I absolutely would. I just do not see the issue. As for whether they have a beard, which was one of the hon. Gentleman’s earlier comments, I dare say that some women have beards. There are all sorts of reasons why our bodies react differently to hormones. There are many forms of the human body. I see someone in their soul and as a person. I do not really care whether they have a male body.

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2018-11-21/debates/BE06C5D4-E549-4F94-87B1-9B77F32EA155/Self-IdentificationOfGender

And LOL at the advert I just had pop up next to this thread: "Flamingo razers - for all the places you shave"