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Everyone’s favourite women’s officer at it again

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Funkyfunkybeat12 · 03/01/2019 08:22

New target: Dr Louise Moody at York University. Deaf, lesbian, gender critical and precariously employed junior academic. She makes an innocuous joke about LM’s announcement on twitter about ‘coming out’ as a lesbian (ie being heterosexual). Cue a swift complaint to York asking for Louise to be fired, insinuating that LM is a student there themselves. Followed by lots of toady support by mainly males asking for this person to be ‘dealt with’. Including a female academic called Dr Jo Grady who uses terf-blocker and thinks it’s really cool to throw a disabled lesbian who is precariously employed under the bus. She has also commanded York to deal with the situation.

This is getting out of hand. Solidarity with Louise. I hope you’re okay. I actually blame people like Dr Grady more than LM, who clearly has serious issues. But how you can publicly call for someone’s sacking for this when you know what academia is like and how difficult it is for women, POC and disabled people is breathtaking. This is a lesbian woman who takes issue with a heterosexual male appropriating her marginalised status. Same as POC would presumably take issue if a white man started talking about his struggles being trans-black.

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AnyFucker · 03/01/2019 18:39

Lily Madigan is not a lesbian

Because lesbians are biologically female

Sexnotgender · 03/01/2019 18:36

I think arsehole is a fair description of Madigan given how they behave.

GerryblewuptheER · 03/01/2019 18:36

You can be deleted for someome else being confused as to who you were talking about on here these days. Even if they know the other person was wrong...Hmm

starcrossedseahorse · 03/01/2019 18:33

Sexnotgender can you be deleted for what might be considered abuse?

starcrossedseahorse · 03/01/2019 18:31

Yes I suppose that it is clear that MN do not think that TWAW otherwise they would be deleting for White and Huntley.

It is some consolation.

Sexnotgender · 03/01/2019 18:28

My post has been deleted. I didn’t use male pronouns. Unless arsehole is male?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/01/2019 18:27

What datun said!

Bloody hell!!

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/01/2019 18:27

Or should that be line?

Probably

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/01/2019 18:26

So in effect I suppose they have placed their flag in the sand...as an organisation at least

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 03/01/2019 18:26

What datun

But it does go some way towards backing up that not all TWAW

Qcng · 03/01/2019 18:19

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Datun · 03/01/2019 18:15

HQ will say it's all about context.

It's a lot easier to defend male pronouns in Huntley. Than it is in LM. On the basis of how many reports they get.

LM and allies will report everything they can get their hands on. Because they're like that. Whereas most people don't give a toss about Huntley.

Logical and consistent, it isn't.
Understandable, given how much time is devoted to this issue, it is.

Of course I disagree with it. But I'd rather have the inconsistency and keep the platform.

VickyEadie · 03/01/2019 18:11

Hi SophieLMumsnet.

I'm confused. Sometimes you allow people on here to use male pronouns for transwomen (I'm thinking of people like Karen White). At other times, you don't.

Could you explain?

DoctorTwo · 03/01/2019 18:10

@EverlastingGodstopper there's an ugly bloke just about to follow you on Twitter. Just to let you know, he's totally on your side.

Good luck Louise, you deserve it.

starcrossedseahorse · 03/01/2019 18:07

And by 'make' I clearly meant 'male'!
Went in to pissed off typing mode there for a minute...Grin

Katvonbatshit · 03/01/2019 18:05

I guess people are triggered by the absolute cheek of LM.
I left labour over the way they condone LMs behaviour.

starcrossedseahorse · 03/01/2019 18:04

So utterly done with this LUDICROUS genderist religion and the way that women are being relentlessly policed

Is it ok to use make pronouns for Nicola Huntley? For Karen White? Jess Bradley? All who have committed crimes with their (male) penises? We either accept that all transwomen are women or that none are - which is it MN?

And yes thank you for hosting debate - it is valuable and necessary. But does anyone know the answer to my question above?

SophieLMumsnet · 03/01/2019 18:02

Hello all,

We've deleted a few posts that break TGs - please do keep them in mind, as we don't want to have to delete the thread.

starcrossedseahorse · 03/01/2019 17:58

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VickyEadie · 03/01/2019 17:49

If a tree falls in the woods and there’s nobody there to hear it, it affects the mental health of first years at Goldsmith’s.

In homage to Aspie's comment here, I was going to compare LM's tweets with the notion of one hand doing something...

Sexnotgender · 03/01/2019 17:48

I used to feel sorry for them too. I got over that though.

VaginalAcoustic1212 · 03/01/2019 17:47

I used to feel quite sorry for LM in a motherly sense, and I do still remain more angry at the people who have enabled them.

But now I am deliberately leaving the maternal sympathy because LM is quite simply beyond decency at this point.

Ereshkigal · 03/01/2019 17:27

Aspie Grin

Ereshkigal · 03/01/2019 17:26

I agree with sexnotgender. An extremely manipulative person.

AspieAndProud · 03/01/2019 17:25

The behavior of someone who works at York Uni (said behavior being "makes jokes on Twitter") affects the mental health of first years at Goldsmiths?

If a tree falls in the woods and there’s nobody there to hear it, it affects the mental health of first years at Goldsmith’s.