How to report paedophiles on Twitter?

I must admit I'm very surprised that drawings are illegal - just drawing them at home type thing.

I suspect it's hardly ever proscuted but there if they need it, sort of thing.

I was wrong - happy to put hands up to that!

"The Coroners and Justice Act of April 2009 (c. 2) created a new offence in England and Wales and Northern Ireland of possession of a prohibited image of a child. This act makes cartoon pornography depicting minors illegal in the England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Since Scotland has its own legal System, the Coroners and Justice Act does not apply, although due to the introduction of the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act by the Scottish Parliament, the aforementioned cartoon images are also specified as illegal. This Act did not replace the 1978 act, extended in 1994, since that covered "pseudo-photographs"—images that appear to be photographs. In 2008 it was further extended to cover tracings and other works derived from photographs or pseudo-photographs.[56] A prohibited cartoon image is one which involves a minor in situations which are pornographic and "grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise of an obscene character".

Prior to this, although not explicitly in the statutes, the law was interpreted to apply to cartoon images, though only where the images are realistic and indistinguishable from photographs.[57] The new law however covered images whether or not they are realistic."

So how come Jess Bradley didn't get clobbered for having images of Ben 10 being raped on their blog?

Oh weird.

I had no idea images of children had been made illegal.

How were they allowed to show those pics of brooke shields not so long ago? Which were originally published in a porn mag (she was 11 or something). And I mean they were actual photos. Or is it images of abuse or what?

Also that famous painter pics of his daughter with no clothes on it's known he sexually abused her.

Might have a google.

It is illegal to post or pass around manga images of child abuse, there was a guy in Newcastle a few years ago convinced , and this year two men convinced in Wales in June 2018 for sharing indecent images of children based on “hentai-style Japanese cartoons”.
I think it must depend on the images depicted though and I know different police forces and judges seem to vary sentences a lot.

This is pervy weirdy men getting sad feelz that their pervy weidy ways mean that people think they are pervy and weirdy and so dont' want to go anywhere near them / let their kids anywhere near them etc

That's v mean I mean it's innate and they're virtuous honest and no kink shaming and blah

Whatever - meanwhile women who are barely represented in these groups will carry on steering clear and teaching our kids to steer clear of pervy weirdy men when we can spot them (which sadly isn't anywhere near often enough).

The gall of these men to think they can go on the net and say oh look at me in all my peverse glory and get fucked off when people say yiles pervy weirdo.

What the fuck is a 'zoophile'?

What the fuck is any of this?

I don't think drawings are illegal in UK.

May be a grey area with drawings of actual people in same way as that girl aloud case.. not sure.

Yeah, you are right. There are big differences in possible drawings, so the impact of legislation on therapy may not be dramatic. (I suppose getting individuals to use more harmless drawings plus less realism is a therapy goal, anyway. Which is why I very much doubt dolls are a step in the right direction. We'll see, I guess.)

timetostepup that is interesting. If drawings are illegal in the UK, but legal in continental Europe (not sure they still are. They were when I read an article about therapies), do therapies diverge? And if so, how? —or is that why the whole furry porn stuff started?—

Amongst other edifying recent remarks, Cantor has responded today to somebody disclosing her experience of child sexual abuse in order to illustrate her concerns by telling her that "experiencing such a trauma is consistent with a revenge- rather than solution-oriented approach"

So the opinions of survivors about paedophilia are worthless and should be written off as "revenge-oriented" and "emotional" (same tweet). That isn't just naivety. That is a deliberate ploy to silence and dismiss those who have been victimised.

I think Cantor is just trying to be logically consistent as he sees it, he’s one of those utter twits (nearly all men) who can’t place their logic in a social or political context and therefore thinks everyone who disagrees with him (people who do have that skill) is being irrational. A Richard Dawkins type.

I think he thinks you can add P to the rainbow to advocate for “non-offending pedophiles” to be socially accepted and that would be only right and fair since they can’t help it.

He can’t see how that position looks to other people, he can’t grasp how it would be interpreted by most people if that did happen, he can’t see a slippery slope from normalisation of pedophilia and he doesn’t understand the damage he’s doing to gay rights. He’s not directly advocating for child abuse to become acceptable; he’s just such a twit that he doesn’t see that his idea could lead to that.

NothingOnTellyAgain

Absolutely.

traceyracer I agree stating that this is one‘s condition will hardly be actionable. Question is, what is with accounts who advocate for lowering age of consent, or say the true trauma happens by society‘s reaction (you‘ll hear that Pomo argument repeatedly), or drone on about the beauty of the h&m kid swimwear catalogue and such? Not sure if any of those accounts do that. But what is the limit?

This is the stuff that women whisper to each other in the pub >
Don't go home with them
Come back I saw X watching you, you need a cab
That bloke looks too long at the young girls
etc

This is what they are trying to prevent by making it
Intolerant and bigoted to say, even in a whisper
Plus by infiltrating spaces where women have passed these messages to each other

This is problematic again in the same way that women have been sating about our spaces.

There is a big range of behaviour that men can and do carry out that is not illegal but is definitely off.

eg that person everyone keeps posting about, asking a girl in the toilets if she uses tampons, there's no law against talking to poeple in the toilet
As with this on twitter, there's no law against these men offering to help kids with homework etc

This is the large area that women have been trying to police forever (keeping the kids away from the creepy man but without being able to say outloud oh he's creepy as he hasn't theoretically done anything wrong).
This is the piece that is being undermined hard right now.

from my understanding openly being a pedophile per se isn't against the rules of twitter (so twitter or the police can't do anything if a man simply announces "Hi I'm a pedo"), it only becomes an offence if they are unable to control their urges and make any attempt to have unlawful contact with the underaged (grooming etc)

This is nothing to do with support and everything to do with normalising / eliciting sympathy etc and piggybacking on the gains of the LGB movement > PIE are back IMO.

See also, the articles on "virtuous paedophiles" in the press last year -there's nothing "virtuous" about not raping kids FFS

"Those accounts were taking an aggressive approach, on behalf of adult child sexual relations...

They are, by all accounts, good people...but their explicitly expressed viewpoints are to politically incorrect for Twitter, it's delicate sensibilities and overbearing intolerance."

On poster on twitter talking about how his MAP mates had got banned.

Christ.

MagicMix the fact of the matter is that according to reports on the matter those paedophiles who seek therapy will usually find therapies that include stuff like managing the problem by using drawings as an outlet. This implies that the therapy on offer includes ‚indulging in those fantasies‘. Now I have great sympathies for wanting to ban even such thoughts, but assuming therapists know what they are doing, trying to make paedos ban and combat any such thoughts does not seem to be a winning strategy.