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The 'c' word

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Terfing · 02/01/2019 05:16

As in, the 4-letter word that refers to female genitalia.

I have started a thread in 'Site Stuff' asking them to ban the use of this word on Mumsnet. Personally, i find the word hugely offensive. It is shocking that one of the worst insults in the English language involves comparing someone to female genitalia. Even worse, I've seen it many times on the feminism boards.

What are other people's thoughts on this?

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Almondcandle · 02/01/2019 20:00

Ffs, I thought it was easier for her to choose for herself what interested her from looking at google books!

books.google.co.uk/books?id=CabyAAAAMAAJ&q=Cunt+coney&dq=Cunt+coney&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjx59-a8M_fAhXt8eAKHcvqD5s4ChDoATAGegQIARAe

books.google.co.uk/books?id=qn-DASgdhiAC&pg=PA251&dq=Cunt+coney&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi396OS8c_fAhU7ThUIHZBeCCUQ6AEIQjAF#v=onepage&q=Cunt%20coney&f=false

It is also mentioned (with four other references) on the Wikipedia entry for cunt.

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 19:53

The other one was some sort of feminist/academic blog. I'm not really that interested as coney/cunny/cunt aren't words I need to use.

However you posited this theory- Bertrand asked for more information (a reasonable enough request as she was unfamiliar with it) but you can't or won't provide it.

Almondcandle · 02/01/2019 19:44

Pink, as I’ve said, there are many examples on google books of cunt/coney.

Obviously if you use urban dictionary as a source the examples will be recent!

charis · 02/01/2019 19:27

Does anyone else remember "CAT me, you cunt!" Who was it now? Told the story to DP and he is horrified we used to have to pay £5 p.y for PMs when MN was ad-free.

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 19:21

Sorry, have to disagree that it isn’t used as term of affection in Scotland - it might not be in your circles, but it is in many (no doubt those considered beneath you)

It is not used amongst people I know. It was not an expression I heard used when I grew up in rural north- east Scotland. Your last comment is out of order.

Lomondstripe · 02/01/2019 19:06

Sorry, have to disagree that it isn’t used as term of affection in Scotland - it might not be in your circles, but it is in many (no doubt those considered beneath you). It isn’t even a term of affection so much as just a synonym for person This cunt, that cunt, any cunt want to, nae cunt wants to, he’s a gid cunt. I’ve heard it twice on this train journey. I’d rather be called a cunt than a bitch but I wouldn’t seek to ban either. Bigger fish to fry, surely?!

pachyderm · 02/01/2019 19:05

Love the word. It's flexible and adaptable - matter of fact ("my cunt") or angry ("You utter cunt!"- a bit like cunts themselves. Chaucer used the word, it's old fashioned and earthy. Still has the power to shock too.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/01/2019 19:02

By banning it, in a way, you are agreeing that calling someone a cunt is beyond the pale. You are agreeing.

It's also fairly common vernacular.

Men get more pissed off if you call them something bad but not too bad. "He's just a bit of a pratt". So I advocate this IRL Grin

Ponker is good too. Thansk Rodney. Like they aren't even important enough to waste a good angry swear on Grin

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/01/2019 19:00

Poople of teh cunty variety and people of teh dicky variety

Given than boy/girl/man/woman/girl/boy give no biological indications any more and sometimes you want or need to discuss something that is relevant for teh cunty but not the dicky.

DH is still calling me "Glorious Becunted One" and he's my little dicky Smile

Terfing · 02/01/2019 18:59

The thing is, the various derogatory words for penis are not as serious as the c-word. Women are the oppressed sex, and our genitals are often seen as dirty, shameful, and problematic. Penises are not seen in this way.

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MagicMix · 02/01/2019 18:59

Cunt is a long long way from being the most offensive word in the English language. It's maybe the strongest late-night-tv-acceptable word, but that's it.

The really strong racist slurs are much more shocking. Probably these are already banned on Mumsnet.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/01/2019 18:59

How will we be able to refer to ourselves then > women on the original type (cunty) works well for me.

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 18:53

"Boor" is a word I thoroughly approve of and use. "Boor" and "boorish behaviour" are generally applied to men although not expressly gendered.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/01/2019 18:50

I meant boor and bore, can't even keep them straight myself.

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 18:50

Yes. Pigs are clean, intelligent, much maligned and very badly treated animals.

I don't call or approve of violent criminals or rapists being called "animals". Animals behave according to their nature over which they have no control and cannot be blamed- mankind has reason. It is insulting to animals. (And yes I am being serious)

ErrolTheDragon · 02/01/2019 18:49

So we get rid of 'pig' for men?

That's a sex-neutral animal word ... 'boar' probably never got used because of confusion with boor and boar.

RapunzelsRealMom · 02/01/2019 18:49

Everyone knows that it's one of the worst words in the English language

No they don't. That's YOUR opinion, not everyone's.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 02/01/2019 18:48

I dont think ive ever seen the term male chauvinist pig on here

Pigs are cute and intelligent

ErrolTheDragon · 02/01/2019 18:47

And sow for that matter. Even the apparently innocuous MN expression "daft mare" - what is inherently daft about a mare?

Yes - my post was in the context of your list.

charis · 02/01/2019 18:46

You should see what DP's colleagues in the fishing industry post and text to him 😶 To which he often replies with a kiss 😁

I hear it enough to say it's not used abusively very often but I'm not saying they're at in Ballanory (which would actually be awesome)

And I do agree that making it the "worst" insult, the context, the history is somewhat problematic, but personally I need to pick my battles and I've enough to worry about when it comes to language Gin

MephistophelesApprentice · 02/01/2019 18:45

So we get rid of 'pig' for men?

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 18:42

"Strutting peacock" for a vain, over dressed man but it's hardly common usage.

AspieAndProud · 02/01/2019 18:42

I hate the word. My surname is Hunt so I was called it far too many times from a fairly young age by people who thought they were hilarious. 'Is your Dad's name Mike?' Brilliant.

Bet you got loads of phone calls from Bart Simpson.

MargueritaPink · 02/01/2019 18:40

Yes ... and the same goes for some of the other female animal names which are used in more or less derogatory (and dehumanising?) ways ... 'cow' can go on the list too please

And sow for that matter. Even the apparently innocuous MN expression "daft mare" - what is inherently daft about a mare? (Not that I've heard it in real life)

"Ewe lamb" is the only postive female anthropomorphism I can think of.

AspieAndProud · 02/01/2019 18:39

Maybe peacock? It’s an odd term to use as it generally implies being effeminate even though peacocks’ displays are very ‘masculine’. I’ve heard it used to describe Hercule Poirot.

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