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Misgendered and violent

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yiskasha · 28/12/2018 19:04

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

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NottonightJosepheen · 30/12/2018 16:11

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GiantKitten · 30/12/2018 16:06

Just seen this on FB
No shame 🙄
Positively puffed up with pride in fact

Misgendered and violent
Misgendered and violent
ErrolTheDragon · 30/12/2018 15:59

And what do we make of my late MIL who quite consistently called each of our dogs in turn by his predecessors name?

MaisyPops · 30/12/2018 15:53

Of course you are.Smile
Don't get me started on one of my relatives who thinks that 'thingy' and 'you know' adequately identify people. They're literally removing personhood from people.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/12/2018 15:50

I often get DH and DS names mixed up - am I mis-generationing them?

MaisyPops · 30/12/2018 15:46

Jaxhog
I get called sir at least once a fortnight by an unsuspecting student. Thankfully I take it as an absent minded innocent slip of the tongue rather than a slight on my appearance (especially given that I dress quite feminine at work) Grin
A colleague got Mum before Christmas from a GCSE student. It was triggering for her obviously because the child was misparenting her.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/12/2018 15:45

Because women (and women in training) don’t smash things up at every perceived sleight.

Galvantula · 30/12/2018 15:43

@dryheave my 3 year old made that mistake. DH said "ok ma'am" to her and she was outraged and replied "daddy I'm not a man!"

She didn't smash anything though she just carried on eating her tea...

I used to get mistaken for a boy a lot as a child, due to being a short-haired 'tomboy'. I was probably secretly quite happy. Blush

Most people on being 'misgendered' in RL just carry on, or are a tiny bit embarrassed. Rather than smashing shit up 🙄🙄

NottonightJosepheen · 30/12/2018 13:48

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KlutzyDraconequus · 30/12/2018 13:39

Seems the person in the original story is becoming internet famous under the nickname:

"Macho Ma'am Tranny Savage"

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 30/12/2018 13:15

Taking the piss disorder more like

That too.

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Wordthe · 30/12/2018 12:59

Dissociative identity disorder coupled with a personality disorder

Taking the piss disorder more like 🤣

silentcrow · 30/12/2018 12:56

Yes, thank you for the military insights - really interesting. It's hard to even begin to imagine the power plays going on in a closed system like that, but it's no wonder it erupts out into civilian life.

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 30/12/2018 12:54

Agree with what has been said about the military.

I watched a video on YouTube by KB (not saying that they are the person in GameStop, but I was led to the vid via speculation that they were), and I was struck by the reversal of power play that becoming trans had seemingly given KB.

They had, from at least teenage, been a violent dominator, from Jock to Navy Seal. Had lost a marriage and a relationship with his older children because he “didn’t behave great” violent and abusive would be my translation of that and had a breakdown. Enter stage right, his female self, who is his true self, who is terribly victimized by society and has always been the victim. Had she been allowed to come forth before, none of the violent dominating behaviour would have happened.

The old self is destroyed and the true self steps forward all shiny and new. Accept KB has no intention of relinquishing all the “Hero” accolades, the medals and the social status that their sanctioned violent domination has afforded them, which is how I know it is all bollocks and simply a psychological abdication of responsibility for their behavior.

I do think it’s likely linked to PTSD and is a form of dissacosiative identity disorder coupled with a personality disorder, but that is speculation as I am not an expert in the field.

abbsisspartacus · 30/12/2018 12:38

Well I shared it on Facebook and the one of the guy being threatened I've got my wrists slapped for violating community guidelines 🙄 they deleted them but when I reported a graffic rape and a child abuse video they said they didn't

Wordthe · 30/12/2018 12:16

Also what you say about Manning here makes total sense to me
I do not think he leaked info or reasons of conscience. I think that’s a rationale that came later. I think it was an enactment of cosmic punishment for perceived slights from those in authority
The leak was an act of revenge against his superiors, the subsequent transition is a way of mocking them and taking control preventing them from punishing him because he is now a vulnerable person, etc

Wordthe · 30/12/2018 12:03

@EJennings, thank you for your very illuminating post!
I'm especially struck by this insight:

a novel way to occupy a niche where they outrank 50% of the population and also have a kind of free pass where men (so far) can’t challenge them (since they’re women and vulnerable, right?) I think that identifying as a woman, for these particular males, is a solution to authority issues. Which generally include anger issues

Being a transwoman means that you automatically outrank all women (because although you are a woman you still retain the essence of masculinity)
Transwomen vehemently insist that they are women, but their vehemence, along with the very public displays where they wipe the floor with women, constitutes a very clear message that they put themselves above women.
The free pass that they are claiming is another powerplay the fact that they have been given this free pass by many authorities is an acknowledgement that they are above everyone else.
Hahaha
we win
we have owned you all

BlackForestCake · 30/12/2018 07:10

The military has a very macho culture.

Very, very heavily invested in stereotypes of when men and women are supposed to be like.

Non-conformity is very bad.

Very little contact with women.

Deferring to authority is very important, especially if you are the one that others have to defer to.

It does not surprise me if men come out of this environment believing that if they have a thing for frilly knickers it means they're women.

Or that they demand people give them the recognition they believe that they're entitled to.

OlennasWimple · 30/12/2018 06:29

The Daily Mail story has been shared 50,000 times! Shock

EJennings · 30/12/2018 01:48

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GrandmaSteglitszch · 30/12/2018 01:22

Do we know how Caitlyn Jenner came out to his family as 'a woman's? He was caught trying on his teen daughters underwear
Envy barf. That's such a cute feminine thing to do. No wonder Jenner got a prize for glam-girl of the year, or something.

NotTerfNorCis · 29/12/2018 23:33

Militancy on Twitter.

twitter.com/aorocket/status/1079149254008987649?s=19

re:gamestop

always, Always -- the whole place up, whatever the place is. make sure them --s remember.

yeah i figured there’s no way much happened. much shall happen in the future, though, because ---- ‘em.

I can only hope they regret this shit

well, that’s our job. Those who can’t hear will feel.

Iused2BanOptimist · 29/12/2018 22:47

Of course one can hardly credit Trump with a logical thought process but I imagine enthusiasm for keeping trans out of the military is to do with medical costs, battle readiness and mental health. Maybe.

ttp://thefederalist.com/2018/03/13/trump-dont-turn-the-military-into-a-federally-funded-sex-change-clinic/

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