Misgendered and violent

Outrageous that discussion on the other thread has been silenced. No doubt by a huge amount of wittering from people who are not MNetters, who do not want to use the site, have no interest in anything about the site, other than their feeling of entitlement and arrogance in policing what women are allowed to say and to try their best to control them.

The sole reason for the wittering on this matter is to try and control and prevent sharing of information and truth, because it's inconvenient to the narrative. It's tough when people see the truth and it isn't pretty, but being complicit in covering it up is far worse.

Coming here as another thread on this topic has been deleted by HQ - as we can’t have more than one apparently. Not something applied to other topics imo but ho hum.

Duplicate threads can be a nuisance. Rather than deleting (other than in the case of spam/trolling, obv) given that the content can diverge wouldn't it be better to close all but one to further comments, and put links to and from the survivor?

I wonder how restrained the new rules HQ will lay down are going to be?

Coming here as another thread on this topic has been deleted by HQ - as we can’t have more than one apparently. Not something applied to other topics imo but ho hum.

Trans women shouldn't be held to the same rules & customs of decorum, manners, etiquette, kindness, consideration & good behaviour towards others that the rest us all follow?

I saw someone make this argument:

Feminists are saying this transwoman is showing 'male aggression'.

That is clearly sexism against 'cis' women, who're expected to be docile. Instead of transwomen being less aggressive and violent, 'cis women' should be more!

Presenting as you wish (within the cultural constraints of decency) is fine.
Having whatever orientation or paraphilia is fine so long as it doesn't impact on anyone who isn't a freely consenting adult.

On trans Twitter one poster said, My (cis) womanhood is rarely docile or pretty because fuck that! Let's stop holding our trans sisters to inane, backward, and completely made up standards

WTF? Trans women shouldn't be held to the same rules & customs of decorum, manners, etiquette, kindness, consideration & good behaviour towards others that the rest us all follow? Are these "inane, backwards" standards too high for trans women to reach? Or do they get to behave however badly they want wherever & whenever they want simply because they're men?

There is no excuse for this large, threatening male person's menacing, abusive behaviour. And all the people defending it/him offer no arguments whatsoever explaining why he should get a pass. They just say we're mean & evil & call us names.

They want to have sex with women with their 'lady dicks'

Yes, I agree. I've just had to think about what sexual orientation, means. Explicitly. And it's the sex to which you are attracted. (Not the sex you like to think of yourself as.)

They're attracted to themselves. As women. To the point of love/obsession. I guess you could call it a sexual orientation. But that sounds a little bit too 'it's legitimate and therefore needs rights' to me.

AGP is a sexual orientation

It's a paraphilia, mostly exhibited by heterosexual males.

(CaptainKirk I don't disagree with you, I think I just didn't put my point across properly)

The AGP is not a heterosexual man though
he is an AGP man
AGP is a sexual orientation,

It's not a conspiracy between men, it's a very high up push to remove safeguarding and stop certain section of society being able to reproduce by sterilising them, for example those with autism, those who are homosexual and so fourth.
The fact that it’s coming from a very high up place is the reason the media tread so carefully, the whole thing is so one sided and a lot of countries have suddenly decided all at once to implement self ID.

This will happen we can’t stop it, however if the majority of the public know what is happening they can chose not to follow along with it.

Men understand and they understand at a very deep level that if he still has a penis he's not a woman, autogynephiliacs want to persuade us that they should be placed in the same category as female humans even though men know that they are essentially still men

If AGP's can persuade men of this then surely this constitutes a conspiracy between men and AGP men against women, the AGP is winking at the human males, 'hey lads we stitched up the girls good style'

I think it would help if the concept of autogynephilia was more widely recognised, I wonder if there is a more colloquial or less Latin sounding term for it?

yep, and the public will have already moved on.

Lots of support for this individual from TRAs now. Two main themes:

"She must have finally exploded after a lot of provocation. I wish I had the guts to do the same! Also, the shop assistant was clearly rude."

"Transphobes are using this to attack trans people."