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Misgendered and violent

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yiskasha · 28/12/2018 19:04

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

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Redshoeblueshoe · 29/05/2019 23:12

Chesticles Grin

EverardDigby · 29/05/2019 21:40

My interpretation is seeing someone who probably has some sort of mental health condition being restrained by people who probably have inadequate training. I found it a bit distressing though and didn't watch all of it. But then behind lots of the aggressiveness and posturing we know that mental health conditions and trauma are linked with gender dysphoria so that's not surprising.

theOtherPamAyres · 29/05/2019 21:14

I'm thinking allowed - don't mind me but that word misgendered is getting on my chesticles.

Misgendered is trans-speak or woke-speak.

It calls for punishment against those people who:

Refer to a man as a man
Use the correct pronouns for the male sex

It is a form of control and dominance and for that reason I will not be forced to lie. I will not submit. I am not cis. Feck off with your fake offence of misgendering, mate.

Carry on.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/05/2019 20:15

They did proper squish him, despite him being annoying. I'm not sure what they quite expected him to do.... cover them in glitter?

Erythronium · 29/05/2019 20:10

Those security guards/bouncers have obviously been briefed to stop the naughty lesbians from getting to the head of the Pride march. They've probably been told they can use physical force to prevent it from happening, so no wristband now means being wrestled to the ground. What they'd like to do to women who step out of line, but this guy will do in the meantime.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/05/2019 20:01

Video in the penis news article

KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/05/2019 20:00

More misgendering dramatics

This guy tried to get into the Birmingham Pride wristband area (without a wristband).... he'd apparently pushed his way to the front to be with the other Muslim marchers, but wasn't an invited guest.

He found the security team asking him politely for a wristband to be "very aggressive", then starts shouting about "being misgendered" when the security guard calls him sir.

He tries to go in regardless and they restrain him, which is accompanied by much shrieking, its like he's actually being murdered. I'm not quite sure they needed to pin him down, seemed a bit ott, but he did seem to be trying to pull a fast one.

More entitled behaviour.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/05/28/gay-muslim-activist-wrestled-ground-security-birmingham-pride/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Buffer&utm_campaign=PN

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Jaxhog · 13/01/2019 13:27

Be interesting to do a poll to find out how many people thought this was a woman or a man at first glance.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 02/01/2019 07:50

Empress, there's nothing to worry about if we're not vile bigots. If we just shut up and let the men do what they want and it'll all be fine.

Blessed be the fruit loops, Grandma.

Binglebong · 01/01/2019 21:34

the British are far better at proactively caring for the psychological needs of soldiers

I know someone who helps former soldiers with psychological problems and what he tells me of the official support is awful. If that is better than the American version (and I have no reason to doubt you) I am horrified.

Badstyley · 01/01/2019 16:09

Vegilante Thank you. Shall have a look now. DP is waiting with anticipation.

Vegilante · 01/01/2019 16:04

Badstyley sent it via DM

Vegilante · 01/01/2019 15:39

@Badstyley No need to apologize, neither way of messaging annoys me.

The "Macho Ma'am" lyrics aren't on the internet because I wrote them. I'll try sending them in a DM on MN, but space/length limitations might now allow this (the VP's "Macho Man" lyrics are quite long, so the spoof lyrics are as well).

If DMing them directly doesn't work, I can send the lyrics in a pdf but you'll need to DM me an email address where I can send it. (I already tried DMing you a pdf containing the lyrics on MN, but pasting the pdf into the message box doesn't work on the platform.)

Badstyley · 01/01/2019 15:11

@Vegilante

Sorry for the @ing. I wasn’t sure what would be more annoying, an @ or a DM.

Please can you DM me your Macho Maam lyrics? Pleeeeease? I’ve googled but to no avail.

CisMyArse · 01/01/2019 14:18

Callme what reason did they give?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 01/01/2019 12:06

Providing we call men "ma'am" and give them access to private spaces it'll all be good.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 01/01/2019 12:04

Empress, there's nothing to worry about if we're not vile bigots. If we just shut up and let the men do what they want and it'll all be fine.

CallMeSirShotsFired · 01/01/2019 11:26

I think I started the first thread about this some days ago. It was deleted very quickly, albeit with dozens of replies.

The on-board deletion message and the reasons given in a subsequent/separate email don't match up.

It smacks of yet more people at mnhq working at the behest of TRAs to shut down any debate they don't like. Except this one blew up even bigger than they feared.

Good.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 01/01/2019 06:25

And that's meant to be a persuasive argument for why women should stop worrying about giving up our spaces?

FloralBunting · 01/01/2019 01:11

Yeesh, the amount of trans people I've read on Twitter saying that not only was the poor customer in the video justified in their reaction, but the tweeters would like to make it common practice to give misgenderers a clout in the gob.

OlennasWimple · 01/01/2019 00:15

Every group of people has idiots. Their behaviour cannot and should not be used to as representative of the entire group and as justification to denounce that group

I struggle to think of a single trans person who pushes the "TWAW If They Say They Are #No Debate" line and believes that transwomen are entitled to access every and all female only spaces who doesn't have something dodgy in their closet

Any suggestions....?

DointItForTheKids · 31/12/2018 20:18

Ah, another example of entitled male rage.

Lovely.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 31/12/2018 20:04

How about raising it on 'Site Stuff'?

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2018 19:03

I'm inclined to think that the annoyance and confusion caused by similar but divergent threads existing is less than the annoyance and confusion caused by some of these being arbitrarily deleted. And I also would guess there is a difference in which course of action annoys more of MNs core membership. But as you can only report threads that haven't been deleted, MNHQ may only really see half of the story.

R0wantrees · 31/12/2018 18:58
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