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ExH and his ludicrous views

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nannytothequeen · 26/12/2018 21:26

My kids have come from my Ex's asking me if I am a feminist. I certainly am is my reply. Apparently Their Dad has told them that a feminist is a woman who hates men and wants to rule the world and that all feminists are idiots. I am so irritated that he is foisting his ill educated views on my children. Any words of advice? Any nice succinct explanations for my children?

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charis · 27/12/2018 01:55

Whatever you say, please include Socrates' use of "flaccid stereotypes".

Sorry your ex is such a dick. Been there.

Vegilante · 27/12/2018 01:46

Socrates Does Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie have children? I don't think so.

I recall her book being about feminism, not about how best to explain feminism to children whose parents have broken up & have conflicting views about what feminism means. I thought OP in this instance was asking about how to deal with her ex's remarks in the best way possible for her children, not about how to most effectively convince them their father's an asshole who is ill-informed & wrong. But maybe I misread the original post.

Socrates11 · 27/12/2018 01:16

Chimamanda Ngozi Adiche - We Should All Be Feminists...deals with this in the first few pages of the book. Currently 99p on Amazon for Kindle. Ex has fallen for the flaccid, age old stereotypes of what a feminist is. Watch out you'll probably get a phone call from the 1970s asking for his return Grin

Vegilante · 27/12/2018 01:07

Since you asked for "any words of advice", I'll start here: exes should do whatever they can NOT to involve their kids in conflicts between the two parents, no matter what the age of the children. Where such conflicts already exist, parents should also try NOT to escalate/heighten those conflicts or get the kids further involved in them. Particularly at the holidays.

I've learned from first-hand experience & many years of close observation that kids of all ages usually experience criticism of one parent by the other parent as extremely painful & hard to bear. Since children are hardwired to love & identify with both parents, castigating either mum or dad tends to make them feel personally attacked - & extremely torn/conflicted.

So please don't sink down to your ex's level by telling your kids he's an idiot or poorly-educated nitwit who knows nothing, no matter how much your ex might deserve such descriptions. Vent about him & his "ill educated views" to your friends & on boards such as this. But not to your kids, especially if they are still minors.

If you're kids are still kids, you'll have plenty of time to explain feminism from your POV - which I hope you'll do in appropriate ways at junctures in the weeks, months, years ahead. But right now I'd suggest you find a way to gracefully (& with humour) segue away from the contentious issues at hand - what feminism is & whether those of us who ascribe to it are all man-hating tyrants out to rule the world - & reassure your children that you & their dad love them & both of you will always do so even though you clearly disagree with each other about a lot of other things.

I can't be more specific without knowing the ages of the children. But what's best for them should always come first in these sorts of situations, & that usually means calming troubled waters rather seizing the opportunity to prove you're right & your ex is a jerk. Showing your kids that it's possible to be good-natured, gracious, civil & even humble when castigated by others might be the best holiday gift you can give them.

KindOfAGeek · 27/12/2018 00:52

I'd suggest explaining that sometimes people hate people who have different views, and their dad falls into that category.

Shift it to him since it really is his problem, not yours (but don't blame).

Things should be thrown, but kids pick up on that.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 26/12/2018 23:30

I'm waiting for this bullshit from my exh.

Vegilante · 26/12/2018 23:26

How old are the kids?

ScipioAfricanus · 26/12/2018 22:48

Good for you OP. I have this postcard. Perhaps you could order some for the children?

ExH and his ludicrous views
nannytothequeen · 26/12/2018 22:43

A running scared dick. I have just ordered a smash the patriarchy t-shirt for the next time I drop off the kids.

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Neurotrash · 26/12/2018 21:54

(And Sorry he's a dick)

Neurotrash · 26/12/2018 21:50

Oh yes that film that was doing the rounds where children work together to collect balls then are rewarded differently depending on a girl or a boy. Show them this then explain that this is what feminism is against. (As a starter).

ScipioAfricanus · 26/12/2018 21:30

He sounds like an idiot. Ask your children if they think women are equal to men - can and should girls be able to do whatever boys do (and vice versa)? Because that is what a feminist is - not exactly scary (except to weak and pathetic men).

Maybe leave the last bit off.

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