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Miranda Yardley calls out the predator

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Nudibranch · 26/12/2018 02:25

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator

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RedToothBrush · 26/12/2018 14:21

Why is Betts allowed to call Yaniv a guy when Twitter bans GC people, particularly women, for doing the same?

Because its down to pile on reporting campaigns. Are you popular in the right circles or have you been vilified as evil. Might yet happen to Betts, but I would suggest that Betts doesn't get reported as Betts is still respected and has the right connections.

Vegilante · 26/12/2018 14:18

About Esther Betts's tweets about JY, specifically: I'm looking up this Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv guy, all I have to say at the moment is that as a trans woman I've never been this obsessed with 10 year olds having periods...

Why is Betts allowed to call Yaniv a guy when Twitter bans GC people, particularly women, for doing the same?

And what's with the very odd wording Betts has chosen? Betts doesn't call out JY's pervy obsession as alien, grotesque, abhorrent & unacceptable. No, Betts says as a trans woman I've never been this obsessed with 10 years having periods, which suggests that as a trans woman Betts shares the same obsession as JY, just not to this extent.

Also Betts's Tweets about JY express/reveal not a lick of concern for the girls & women violated & endangered by men like JY. Betts's sole concern is that transgender predators like JY might make all men who claim to be women look bad in the public eye.

SlightAggrandising · 26/12/2018 14:01

That kiwi farms thread is something else. Holy moly.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 13:44

The "robust assessments" scheme isn't working, Penny.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 13:43

Thanks, howard!

Gileswithachainsaw · 26/12/2018 13:42

Oh Penny, do you actually think lawsstoppeople doing bad things? What a stupid thing to say

Plus you have you worry about who exactly behind the "robust assessments" and laws.

Look at the prisom senario

LaundryLaundryLaundry · 26/12/2018 13:41

"Criminal laws are in place to stop anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet or changing room, or harrassing or attacking people.”

Oh Penny, do you actually think laws stop people doing bad things? What a stupid thing to say.

starcrossedseahorse · 26/12/2018 13:24

No doubt she was being 'kind' to the paedo in case he felt rejected or his feelz got hurt.

ShotsFired · 26/12/2018 13:21

I really want to know who the woman was that was chatting away to Yaniv in those screenshots.

Her horrendous lack of concern for the safety of women and (mostly) girls while she chit chats with him about tampon strings and changing rooms is sickening.

howard97A · 26/12/2018 13:17

So, there’s nothing to worry about!

I really really hope that this comment was tongue-in-cheek because if it wasn't, I nominate it for Stupidest Comment of the Year.

Yes, tongue firmly in cheek. I should have made that clearer.

MulledWineAndCamembert · 26/12/2018 13:05

Ereshkigal

As well as committing the 'literal violence' of misgendering...

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 13:04

So, there’s nothing to worry about!

I really really hope that this comment was tongue-in-cheek because if it wasn't, I nominate it for Stupidest Comment of the Year.

Gileswithachainsaw · 26/12/2018 12:58

These laws and protections don't exist for them in any other establishment though do they Hmm

So women should just tell the police when they are attacked in a toilet. However they can't do the same..

Ereshkigal · 26/12/2018 12:53

Esther is playing with fire themselves there.

Realised what I was saying isn't clear. Esther Betts has named JY on twitter in connection with dodgy stuff. It will be interesting to see if action is taken there against EB where JY appears to have influence and has got many GC women and their male allies sanctioned, often permabanned, the most prominent being Meghan Murphy.

howard97A · 26/12/2018 12:51

Mariotta

"We know that roughly 95% of paedophiles are male. Where is the evidence that MTF transitioners are any less likely to be so than men who do not transition? Let alone the idea that some people who aren't really trans will transition - or pretend to transition - in order to access minors more easily?"

Penny Mordaunt says, “It is worth saying that single sex services for vulnerable people, such as domestic abuse refuges, have robust assessment procedures that allow them to turn away anyone who poses a threat to vulnerable women and that criminal laws are in place are in place to stop anyone of any gender behaving in a threatening manner in a toilet or changing room, or harrassing or attacking people.”

So, there’s nothing to worry about!

Ereshkigal · 26/12/2018 12:49

Not just TRAs, bu their allies, too.

Absolutely.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 12:42

Gah. But, not bu. (Typing with cat on lap.)

Ereshkigal · 26/12/2018 12:42

I'm looking up this Jonathan/Jessica Yaniv guy, all I have to say at the moment is that as a trans woman I've never been this obsessed with 10 year olds having periods, this isn't a characteristic of trans women.

Esther is playing with fire themselves there.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 12:41

Not just TRAs, bu their allies, too.

Ereshkigal · 26/12/2018 12:40

What a difficult decision. If anyone wanted evidence of the moral vacuity of many TRAs, look no further.

This.

OlennasWimple · 26/12/2018 12:24

This individual spent Christmas day sending a legal complaint to Kiwi Farms demanding that they take down 50+ threads about them.... Ha! Not gonna happen

Knicknackpaddyflak · 26/12/2018 11:59

This individual is as trans as anyone else is. This individual is actively using the trans protections and being protected by them in the course of their actions. They are doing exactly what everyone said would happen, in plain sight.

So come on, Hunt and May and Bercow and you other idiots who couldn't be buggered to do your research properly or think this through instead of chasing your own personal agenda. Look at who and what you're supporting, and what you've allowed to happen. What, exactly, are you going to do about it?

May I remind you of the crowds around the vans of the Bulger killers and Huntley among others, and what would have happened if the general public had got their hands on them? Now try remembering in history what generally happens when the public no longer trust the law or feel they have justice. Now think about what may happen when someone's kid, wife, sister or mother is abused in a public toilet or changing room courtesy of this utter, cowardly idiocy you've made of the law?

Ffs do a bit of bloody risk assessment.

HomeStar · 26/12/2018 11:51

Thanks, NotBad. I just tried to get there on mobile data and it works fine. Wine Gin Brew, whichever you prefer!

Must be this ISP, though I could swear it was working here a few days ago.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/12/2018 11:46

I’d say they’re not calling him out because at some level they accept his views

I would say it is because if they call him out the whole house of cards edifice starts to crumble. I suspect that Stonewall, TRAs and allies aren't saying anything because they don't want to draw attention to him - the sooner he stops being a person of interest the better for them.

NotBadConsidering · 26/12/2018 11:42

I promised myself I wouldn’t go back there but I just tried Kiwi Farms again and it works fine HomeStar. You owe me a drink [off to scrub myself again].