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I have added my voice for all women. As a daughter, mother, sister, aunt, friend and boss we owe it to all the women in our lives to say this is not ok. Natalie was murdered!

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This is barbaric. It's disturbing that we need to appeal this

My God, that account for Gill, how sickening.

This is a weird thought but the village she lives in is a quiet little country place, I wonder if they were factors in cases that suggested that some victims were different from others? I think Natalie Connolly's killer was very rich, I am sure that played into it. Some of the victims had only just met their killer, in a couple of the cases they were prostitutes. Do all these factors play into the sentence given, as it all seems fucking random.

Also Janet Willoughby that is the most appalling thing.

And in the case of Vivienne Scott, "strangled by John Dudgeon (aka John Taylor)

"when he was a 21-year old DJ in his home town, he suffocated 19-year old Vivienne Scott, who had refused him sex." Taylor dumped her body, wrapped in rope, plastic and a piece of carpet near his home "and later claimed her death was the result of a prank which had gone wrong during a sex game."

The judge said Vivienne died after "horseplay". Dudgeon's defence QC said "his mistake was not seeking help when Vivien [sic] had died, if he had he would probably not even been on trial for manslaughter.""

I think we need to hold these judges to account. I honestly think if middle aged men were being killed in the same manner as these poor young women the legal professionals would have a sudden fucking rethink!

Hi - while i was updating the list of women who've died with "sex game gone wrong" defences, I found sentencing info for Gill Barter's killer.

Gill's is an extraordinarily similar case to Natalie Connolly's, but with a very different conviction outcome. He got life, min term 18 years, back in 2003ish.

I think the difference is that Gill did not take drugs, nor did she seem to want rough sex.

It's v distressing reading but you can find it near the bottom of this:

www.wecantconsenttothis.uk/

I’m surprised they didn’t just parade her underwear around the court room to prove ‘she wanted it’

As a related aside - didn’t Joanna Yeates killer lie to the court that she was up for cheating on her boyfriend and rough sex/being tied up?

There doesn’t need to be proof/evidence of anything - just having XX chromosomes seems to suffice that a man can do anything to a woman and get literally away with murder.

No it's not being reported now, I could swear it was at the time and my parents have definitely told me that people locally say so. But it's not unusual for stuff that might prejudice a jury to be removed from the public domain is it?

I'm writing to my MP. This is disgusting and I can't just discuss it online.

"That he had attacked a previous girlfriend I think." that's a bit of info not in the news reports, is it linked anywhere?

How shocking.

MrsChollySawcutt it's shocking and feels like we have gone back 50 years or more!

Yes sorry I didn't want to repeat it for fear of deletion but that's definitely the story floating round the local area and I'm fairly sure was in the local press at the time but can't find any trace of the stories now.

Christ, cases like this one and also the recent Irish case where the defendant was acquitted of rape because his victim went out wearing 'sexy' knickers just make me despair about the society we live in.

How is this justice?

That he had attacked a previous girlfriend I think.

karmarama "that was also local rumour about John Broadhurst (my family live in the village)."

What was the rumour?

The Twitter post linked by @arranbubonic - that was also local rumour about John Broadhurst (my family live in the village).

I agree starcrossedseahorse

"The judge needs to go."

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/broadhurst-sentencing-remarks.pdf 😞

Hoping that the review will result in a hefty sentence for this vile man. But the whole system needs a serious overhaul.

And the man who murdered an escort by beating her around the head, I believe, was just given life.

That case was horrific enough but this one is (if it’s possible) worse as it sounds as if she was tortured and was just left to die as a result of the assault.

Why was the sentence so short? It can’t stand surely?

Totally agree. The judge should be struck off as incompetent. And dangerous to women.

It is utterly beyond belief when you start reading about it. The judge needs to go.

You told the police that you had gone to bed at 3am and awoke after 9am. However there was evidence that you were awake at around 6am. That is because of the health app data from your iPhone showing that stairs were ascended at 6.06, and because of the text message you sent to Leslie Griffiths at 6.11 asking him to have the children for some time longer because you and Natalie had been ‘sick as a dog all night’.

So he lied about getting up (and stepping over her body) at 6am, claimed he didn't wake until 9am. Still took him until 9.23am to call an ambulance, and then described her as 'dead as a doughnut'.

Jesus. How CAN this be? To leave a 'loved one' in a pool of blood at the bottom of the stairs all night. His sentence is a joke. In what sort of world would that at all be possible, that a partner would treat you that way, and that is normal? His only 'crime' one of negligence in not calling an ambulance.

I mean the 'WE CAN'T CONSENT TO THIS' page. Just utterly disgusting. One thing noted I'd many of these poor women, and girls, had only just met the man who killed them. I find it so unlikely that they would have felt safe enough to suggest anything so dangerous as strangling etc eith a stranger. I even find it hard to imagine many women wanting such potebtusllu dangerous sex from a partner.

But it does seem clear that the chargers that could have been pursued were not because the men's stories were believed. The survivor told the story.

The petitions are moving fast. We will get there. I read the link of all those W/o men killed by men who claimed sex games home wrong. I am sickened.

I have signed the petition on Change , it hasn’t even reached 500 signatures yet.

I am going to email MP and AG soon.

The thing is the judge is saying she was so drunk she probably just hurt herself - but if you've ever taken cocain you would know that you can drink unusually large quantities of alcohol and remain relatively clear headed.

So I don't belive for one minute that she was so drunk she was stumbling around hurting herself or so out of her mind she wanted a spray bottle rammed into her. The coke would have counteracted against all the alcohol.

If she was deleriouse and stumbling it would be from the beatings.