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Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

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Bejazzled · 19/12/2018 12:56

And he did it with the most derogatory angry expression on his face.

FFS

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ChattyLion · 19/12/2018 21:38

Ugh, sexist and useless. The Labour Party under Corbyn is just a vacuous embarrassment.

DioVelazquez · 19/12/2018 21:38

I think he said 'people'

0:33 at 0.25 speed;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMsTjrBMcAY

I agree. His lips close at the beginning of both syllables. Definitely "people".

Helmetbymidnight · 19/12/2018 21:30

Exactly!

MaisyPops · 19/12/2018 21:27

Helmetbymidnight
I agree.
I'm no corbyn fanclub member but can't see the issue.

Theresa May doesn't get a get out of jail free pass because the leader of the opposition is doing a poor job of opposing.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/12/2018 21:24

Most everyone on this thread who’ve said that it’s no big deal in the scheme of things have said that they don’t like corbyn.

But hey that mustn’t get in the way of the fantasy that only fanatic corbynistas/could think that way.

AngryAttackKittens · 19/12/2018 21:18

Can we stop pretending that Magic Granddad is going to fix everything if only someone can let him know it's happening now? He once showed off his naked girlfriend to his comrades by bringing them home while she was still asleep in bed (Diane Abbot - why she's still talking to him is a mystery to me). He's not doing anything about the misogyny in the party because he thinks it's fine.

Ditto all the other issues he's doing nothing about.

longestlurkerever · 19/12/2018 21:16

Before I watched the clip I thought it was bound to be "woman" as "stupid people" would be an odd thing to say, so I was surprised when I watched it that it looks much more like "people" to me.

MaisyPops · 19/12/2018 21:16

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess
A couple of years is a long time in politics. Hell, a month is a long time in politics.

The politics of the opposition party a couple of years ago do not take away from the shitstorm engulfing the people who are meant to be governing the country.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/12/2018 21:13

I can’t get that animated by the party not in power, when the party in power are such monstrous fuck-wits.

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 19/12/2018 21:10

1/3 of her party don't support her
And how many of Corbyn's own party voted against him a couple of years back? And he refused to resign? Even when his shadow cabinet were walking out in droves?

Helmetbymidnight · 19/12/2018 21:07

She's in a government propped up by the DUP, HER Brexit secretaries keep resigning, 1/3 of her party don't support her, she's recklessly throwing around No deal whilst accusing anyone who challenges her as being a conspiracy theorist in project fear.

Well said.

SillySallySingsSongs · 19/12/2018 20:55

It’s people.

No it isn't

I’m female and I have disdain for all the evil, disgusting Tory scum.

How mature. Nothing like grown up adult debate is there?

Stereotyping everyone in one lump is pathetic.

MaisyPops · 19/12/2018 20:54

I'd be saying 'stupid woman' if someone spoke to me how she did to him there.
She's in a government propped up by the DUP, HER Brexit secretaries keep resigning, 1/3 of her party don't support her, she's recklessly throwing around No deal whilst accusing anyone who challenges her as being a conspiracy theorist in project fear. The woman is a bloody embarrassment.

I'm not a Tory but always felt a little bit of sympathy that (as ever) a woman gets a top job when it's risky with everything to lose and the men sit back. The more she carries on that tiny bit of sympathy goes.

I'd think nothing of calling Boris Johnson a stupid man for the way he carries on and nothing of Theresa May a stupid woman for how she carries on.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 19/12/2018 20:51

I’m female and I have disdain for all the evil, disgusting Tory scum.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 19/12/2018 20:51

It’s people. And it’s very irritating that the media are focusing on this nonsense when the Tories are leading us into disaster with Brexit, universal credit and the numbers of homeless rising daily. Oh and food banks opening in schools.

Tidy2018 · 19/12/2018 20:43

It's "that's a stupid woman" or "just a stupid woman"

user1467718508 · 19/12/2018 20:35

The pure disdain as he said it. Vile.

Careful if you're looking on Twitter tonight, there's a deluge of men confidently defining misogyny on behalf of women...Hmm

To those suggesting we shouldn't spend time discussing it because we're in the midst of something bigger - dealing with a crisis doesn't mean you HAVE to abandon principles. It might help to hang onto them right now.

thedancingbear · 19/12/2018 20:14

Look, I'm a feller, and do not by any means agree with everything that's posted on this forum. I'm also a labour member and a corbyn supporter. In short, if anyone is liable to have his back, it's me.

He clearly says 'stupid woman' and not 'stupid people' or anything else. This clearly makes him a fucking dick, and I've lost a huge amount of respect for him.

UpstartCrow · 19/12/2018 20:05

I think he said 'people'.

0:33 at 0.25 speed;

AspieAndProud · 19/12/2018 20:00

‘Woman’ begins with open, rounded lips. ‘People’ begins with pursed lips.

I think it’s ironic that a misogynist should be caught out by a labial consonant.

ratchethandler · 19/12/2018 19:59

Is that like his 'I didn't support the IRA' storm in a teacup?

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 19/12/2018 19:57

But as it stands it is a storm in a teacup whipped up by the media and a failing Conservative government.

No it's not. That's what desperate Labour supporters always say when Corbyn lets his true character show. As I've said, I don't care if he called TM a stupid woman or whatever. I do care that he subsequently lied in a lame attempt to save his .... was going to say reputation, but that's kind of shot anyway.

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 19/12/2018 19:54

Well, Aristaeus, are you sure you're not watching a different clip?
I'm no lip-reader, but he didn't close his mouth for the first syllable of the second word, as he would have had to have done to make the "p" sound. His lips go forward slightly, to make the "w" sound.

SeaWitchly · 19/12/2018 19:52

I have just reviewed the footage and I think he actually said 'people'... and muttered it under his breath to no-one in particular.
But to be honest I still don't care whether he actually muttered 'stupid people' or 'stupid woman'. FFS I might manage to be outraged if he had bellowed at TM or called her a witch or hag or some other misogynist term. But as it stands it is a storm in a teacup whipped up by the media and a failing Conservative government.

MaisyPops · 19/12/2018 19:51

It does not particularly bother me if he said 'stupid woman' or 'stupid man' tbh. Would people be up in arms if he had called Boris Johnson 'stupid man'?
I think we do feminism a disservice if we get all pearl clutchy about stuff like this when there actual examples of misogyny that need calling out
I agree.

Someone shared something on social media saying 'things feminists care about...' and a list of issues. Followed by 'things feminists do not care about': trying to rename father Christmas 'person christmas'