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Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

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Bejazzled · 19/12/2018 12:56

And he did it with the most derogatory angry expression on his face.

FFS

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GiantKitten · 20/12/2018 16:30

Which bit of “stupid woman” is sexist/misogynist?

She & Andrea Leadsom & Nadine Dorries & Andrea Jenkyn are all women & all say plenty of stupid things.

Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and Philip Davies are all men & all say stupid things. Is it sexist to call them “stupid man”?

Why have people become so fucking precious about language?

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 20/12/2018 16:27

I'm fairly certain he did say "stupid woman" but note that even lip readers cannot agree.

I am more irritated that he has denied it (if it's what he said). If he DID say that he should have just apologised.

Still laughing about the false outrage of the Conservatives about him insulting women when they've spent the last 50 years or so doing exactly that.

And I am out of this thread now. Fed up with the whole thing.

DioVelazquez · 20/12/2018 16:23

I'm not even the person you called deluded in the first place for god's sake.

MissEliza · 20/12/2018 16:16

Well I'm afraid I find MNHQ very hypocritical and inconsistent about these things. Several years ago I remember being told by a poster 'do fuck off' when I praised the Camerons for how they dealt with their son's illness and passing. MNHQ let that comment stand because, according to their email 'we're all adults'. What's the difference between my comment and that one?
You still are deluded. I'm assuming you are a woman and I think it's disgraceful when women choose to stick up for or defend sexist behaviour.

DioVelazquez · 20/12/2018 15:33

A one word answer because you know fine well he did say it and so there's not much you can respond with.

I don't really care whether he said it or not. I said "nice" because your post was rude and confrontational. And MNHQ clearly thought so too.

MissEliza · 20/12/2018 15:23

Sexism aside, it's not even appropriate for the debate chamber, where you are supposed to be able to speak in a civilised and respectful way. TM would have been wrong to call him 'a stupid man' and if she had, I would think her weak and also that she had demeaned her office by doing so.

MissEliza · 20/12/2018 15:19

Nice. A one word answer because you know fine well he did say it and so there's not much you can respond with.
He's an arrogant old man who detests being challenged by a women, like so many men on both sides of Parliament. I'm a Tory voter but I condemned Cameron when he told a female MP to 'calm down dear'.

BlueEyedBengal · 20/12/2018 15:03

That's one of themGrin

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 20/12/2018 15:02

or looked like one of those badly dubbed foreign adverts

Like glade

DioVelazquez · 20/12/2018 15:00

How fucking deluded you are.

Nice.

BlueEyedBengal · 20/12/2018 15:00

He definitely said stupid woman didn't he or looked like one of those badly dubbed foreign adverts

BlueEyedBengal · 20/12/2018 14:57

If it's ok for him to say it I'll join in and call him what he is stupid man

SisterOfDonFrancisco · 20/12/2018 14:53

What I'm getting here is that people are offended that he assumed her gender?

MissEliza · 20/12/2018 14:52

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EmmaStoneWhoCares · 20/12/2018 13:01

I’m not saying Labour are perfect but whilst the NHS is being privatised and one fifth of the country are living below the poverty line, I’ll always vote Labour as to do otherwise is to have blood on my hands.

You're saving the NHS for males, (genderists have female blood on their hands) the NHS is funded by female tax receipts and it's now all about the health care professionals not the service users the NHS is not a safe place for females. Drugs are tested on men, females having heart attacks are failed, childbirth care is poor, I could go on.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3454191-women-risk-health-over-trans-nhs-worker-fear-article-in-tomorrow-s-times-scotland-edition

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 12:48

And I shall spoil my ballot paper.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 20/12/2018 12:28

I’m not saying Labour are perfect but whilst the NHS is being privatised and one fifth of the country are living below the poverty line, I’ll always vote Labour as to do otherwise is to have blood on my hands.

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 12:20

Mistletoe I presume that you know what Labour have been up to in the past few years as they work hard to erode even the meaning of the word 'woman'?
Instigated by the Tories but they and the Greens have charged ahead with their wilful misogyny as they think it will get them woke points and the youth vote.
I am another who has no one to vote for.

ratchethandler · 20/12/2018 12:15

Whilst we're whatabouting, can anyone confirm if Jezza was one of those socialists who used to bellow "Ditch the Bitch" across the House at Mrs T without anything happening, years ago? I suspect he was. But then I can't abide the man.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/how-margaret-thatcher-built-the-myth-of-the-iron-lady-8565103.html

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/12/2018 12:14

Mistlewoeandwhine oh please. There are Labour MPs who behave badly too. One has been found guilty in court yesterday and is now awaiting sentance.

All is wrong. Very telling you highlight one and nit the other.

Another ex Labour MP now independent resigned the whip whilst under investigation.

I suggest you take your Corbyn rose coloured spectacles off.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 20/12/2018 12:09

This says it all for me:

Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"
zippey · 20/12/2018 12:05

He definitely said “stupid people”.

But even if he said stupid woman, is woman a swear word now? She is a woman.

Saying woman is not akin to saying the n word or black or gay. It’s akin to saying man.

She is stupid and she is a woman. I’ve no problem with Corbyn saying this. She is leading this country off a cliff.

I’m in Scotland and what a shame we werent brave enough to split from this shambles of a union a few years ago. Hopefully the SNP can get a second referendum and leave the Union.

ratchethandler · 20/12/2018 12:01

Corbyn DOES have form both for misogyny and lying. Correct.

13thWarriorWitch · 20/12/2018 11:44

It's Laurel or Yanny all over again.

fwiw, to me he said "woman" but I expect most people are seeing what they expect to see, even those saying they expected the opposite, aren't taking into account the possibility that on a subconscious level they are open to the idea they might be wrong.

But I do think "woman" is more likely in context and Corbyn DOES have form both for misogyny and lying.

ratchethandler · 20/12/2018 11:39

No, I simply have an opinion and I'm certain I saw him mouth "woman". So not all lip readers agree...You've rather proved my point for me.

Would you care to comment on the other matter of why Jeremy lied about never having met the IRA?

Or why he claimed to have supported the peace process whilst he consistently voted against it in the commons?

api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1985/nov/27/anglo-irish-agreement#S6CV0087P0_19851127_HOC_294