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Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

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Bejazzled · 19/12/2018 12:56

And he did it with the most derogatory angry expression on his face.

FFS

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starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 21:46

Tbf anyone seems to be allowed in the Ladies so that is no indicator of womanhood.

smithsinarazz · 20/12/2018 21:44

This makes no sense. It seems as though the kick-off isn't about TM being called "stupid" - which is insulting, although some might think, not as insulting as all that, considering what she's done - but about her being called a woman. Which, last time I looked, wasn't anything to be ashamed of.
I find it very hard to talk about Theresa May without an angry expression on my face, and I'm lucky enough not to have ever had to visit a food bank, live under a bridge, or seek asylum in the UK.
If it's wrong to describe May as a woman, is she allowed in the Ladies?

Gronky · 20/12/2018 21:07

An interesting factor to consider when saying with absolute certainty that you read someone's lips saying one thing or another:

The brain is great at filtering out noise and errors but that same ability also allows us to deceive ourselves into seeing what isn't there.

MissEliza · 20/12/2018 20:23

I would jump for joy if Yvette Cooper was making a leadership pitch. It feels like so many sensible Labour politicians jumped ship eg Andy Burnham, David Milliband but Yvette Cooper has hung in there.

GiantKitten · 20/12/2018 18:41

Between her & Kate Osamor Labour’s reputation is having a very bad month

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 18:30

While God did not save them from a guilty verdict, he did save them in it and ensured that their greatest days of impact were on the other side of a guilty verdict. Of course this is equally true of Christ, who was accused and convicted by the courts of his day and yet this was not his end but rather the beginning of the next chapter in his story

WTAF?!

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 18:28

Hahahaha! That is a scary read. She is completely bonkers.

MargueritaPink · 20/12/2018 18:27

What with that and Fiona Onasanya MP being found guilty yesterday for her offence to do with lying over a speeding offence and facing possible jail time, Labour aren't having a good week

She's now comparing herself to Jesus

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/20/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-likens-her-conviction-to-that-of-biblical-figures

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 18:25

Yep he says 'leadership pitch'! It's pretty obvious.

AnOtherNomdePlume · 20/12/2018 18:19

Yes they were stern words from him!

derxa · 20/12/2018 18:17

For Mundell as pointed on the YouTube comments "Leadership pitch" is more in fitting with the context tbh and my (amateur!) lipreading. Mundell is known as 'Wee Fluffy' and is my constituency MP in Scotland. He is a lovely man and as far away from Corbyn as you can imagine.

AnOtherNomdePlume · 20/12/2018 18:12

For Mundell as pointed on the YouTube comments "Leadership pitch" is more in fitting with the context tbh and my (amateur!) lipreading.

MissEliza · 20/12/2018 18:04

JSmitty that's disgusting and unacceptable. Politics has become so nasty these days although sexism is age old, of course. After seeing Bercow's reaction yesterday, it seems it's quite easy for MPs to get away with it.

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 18:01

It won't matter to the cultists.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/12/2018 18:00

Well a Labour MP Ivan Lewis has just quite the Labour Party over Corbyns failure to deal with antisemitism.

What with that and Fiona Onasanya MP being found guilty yesterday for her offence to do with lying over a speeding offence and facing possible jail time, Labour aren't having a good week.

OlennasWimple · 20/12/2018 17:50

So stupid wimple it is!

Now I'm really offended!

Grin
JSmitty · 20/12/2018 17:28

Now the lip-readers are out, here's David Mundell calling Yvette Cooper a 'bitch.'

RingThoseChristmasBells · 20/12/2018 17:21

She is stupid. She is a woman. It's factually accurate not sexist.

DeepanKrispanEven · 20/12/2018 17:20

No, I simply have an opinion and I'm certain I saw him mouth "woman". So not all lip readers agree...You've rather proved my point for me.

Not really, ratchet, given that you have said you are sure he lied but now accept that actually it's a matter of opinion.

AnOtherNomdePlume · 20/12/2018 17:17

Deepan I thought that.

So stupid wimple it is!

DeepanKrispanEven · 20/12/2018 17:13

well we all saw on the news that he said stupid woman

No, we really didn't, @niesha6899.

DeepanKrispanEven · 20/12/2018 17:06

The movement of his mouth on the second syllable really looks much more like "ple" than "man".

Aristaeus76 · 20/12/2018 16:56

First time I saw it I thought he said people, 2nd time I watched it I thought he may have said woman, 3rd and 4th times I watched it I thought he said people.

Just out of interest, is it sexist for any man to say anything negative about any woman under any circumstances?

beanaseireann · 20/12/2018 16:39

I looked at the footage on my Sky app.
The first time I thought he said people but on second viewing I thought he said woman

starcrossedseahorse · 20/12/2018 16:38

Seriously? Here's one example why language matters a great deal.

Currently the word 'woman' is being redefined to mean real women and men who want to be women. This renders the word meaningless in virtually every way.

Language matters.