Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

It’s no great secret that accusations of misogyny are applied disproportionately to smear those on the right. It comes as no great surprise there are so many willing to come rushing to Corbyn’s defense.

Note the disparity between Jess Phillips’s comments regarding former Defense Secretary for touching a reporters thigh, and her friend Brendan Cox when he had pushed women up against walls with hands around their throats.

If you’ll notice Andrea Leadsom used the opportunity to raise again when John Bercow (who has been a Conservative MP) called her a stupid woman. So they can hardly be accused of being partisan on the issue.

Too often those talk the talk when it comes to the treatment of women, but it all magically disappears when it comes to defending one of their own...

TM does actually make quite a convincing pantomime villain at 0.25 speed ...

Ive a suspicion, TM’s speech writers are getting inspiration from Private Eye,

I just found last weeks Private Eye at home. The front page is a “it’s the Panto season, oh no it isn’t” sketch.

Telegraph - "There can’t be many 118-year-old institutions remaining in Britain which, despite loudly trumpeting messages of equality, have never had a woman at the helm - and don’t seem to be in a hurry to change.

Welcome to the Labour party in 2018, folks."

This was an interpretation by a lip reader. I saw it as 'stupid people'.

No one overheard him, so it is speculation and he denies it.

If you want to argue with me, go to the mirror and mouth 'I love you'. Now mouth 'elephant juice'. They look exactly the same to a lip reader. It is hardly an exact science.

The reason I'm so sure, is that he looks like he said "Stupid Woman".. And he has a history of lying.

Whether he said "people" or "woman", [I believe it was woman]

These were my exact words. If someone claims they're 'certain' of something and they do not cite sources.sources to back up their claims, then it's quite obvious they're expressing an opinion. As I was.

It's interesting how you feel it necessary to take issue with my every word on this, but fail to respond to the points I put to you about Corbyn's history of lying..

Will you now do so....? Preferably with cited sources?

The panto bit was stupid imo.

May shouldn't do humour, it doesn't suit her personality and it doesn't come off imho.

she'd just got one up with him with some comment about his backbenchers so he muttered 'stupid woman' in anger, probably exacerbated by a woman putting him down

“a woman putting him down”? She tries to put him down every PMQ - I think he can take it! But she reduced the Brexit argument to a bit of (pre-written 🙄) panto dialogue & her side all reacted like a panto audience. That was pretty stupid, even by Commons standards.

Sorry Bert I don't agree, I think the words you use when cross are very telling. He was cross because he hates being mocked, and particularly by women.

“But he won't because he's a stubborn, idiot with a history of lying when confronted with his past behaviour, as I believe I've proven.“

You haven’t, you know. And you also didn’t say that in your opinion he said “woman”. You said that he definitely did.

And there is a huge difference between a calculated mocking remark made publicly, like Cameron’s “Calm down dear” and an exasperated mutter, caught by chance on camera.

But anyway, if it helps clear the way for Yvette Cooper or Kier Starmer......

Not really, ratchet, given that you have said you are sure he lied but now accept that actually it's a matter of opinion.

Yes, I'm sure, as in : It is in my opinion that he said "woman". Not all lip readers agree and I am not a lip reader. I was responding to someone who was suggesting that we all ought to be quiet and stop speculating as one lip reader had given us their personal interpretation. It's not as if I care particularly whether he said "woman", "people", "person," "bint", "bitch" anyway and I accept that I might be wrong. But I do not think I am.

What I don't accept though is his Corbyn's refusal to apologise for using uncivilised, unparliamentary language. Had he done - that would probably have been the end of the matter. But he won't because he's a stubborn, idiot with a history of lying when confronted with his past behaviour, as I believe I've proven.

I also take issue with the hypocrisy of Labour party members who went berserk when Cameron teased Angela Eagle with his condescending "calm down, dear" remark, but are silent on this....

I think the context is important. TM hadn't said something incredibly stupid eg my deal will pass through parliament with no problem, she'd just got one up with him with some comment about his backbenchers so he muttered 'stupid woman' in anger, probably exacerbated by a woman putting him down.

You have no idea if this person is actually sexist.

this person isn't some random stranger they are leader of her majesty opposition and has been an MP for decades. I am very aware if what he is like.

First of all, just because you see this person's expression as "derogatory" does not mean it is. You have no idea if this person is actually sexist.
Second of all, calling someone stupid who happens to be a different gender than you does not make you sexist. It makes you a person that views another person as stupid. That's fucking it.
My name is "LogicPlease" for a reason.

Yvette Cooper, Harriet Harman and Caroline Flint would be a good start for a new party.
I have nobody to vote for at the moment.

I would jump for joy if Yvette Cooper was making a leadership pitch

I voted for her as leader in 2015. It was the last vote I cast for any Labour candidate in anything and likely to remain that way for a very long time.

I would (& did ) call Cameron & many of his merry crew "stupid man" - ditto B Johnson & others of the current batch of tossers - I'm prety sure Corbyn would too. You are projecting

As are you. I don't think "stupid man" is a natural usage- one might say"Cameron is a very stupid man- unfortunately "stupid woman" is , for some, natural usage.

What "objectionable names" have any members of the Government called Corbyn in the House?

I would jump for joy if Yvette Cooper was making a leadership pitch.

Me too.

That is aside from the fact the leader of the opposition should not be calling the PM stupid

But it's fine for the Govt side to call Corbyn all kinds of objectionable names?

The kick off is because if it had still been Cameron on the other side of the despatch box Corbyn would have said "idiot" or "stupid idiot". He wouldn't have bothered to highlight Cameron's sex

a) it's still not clear (& prob never will be) whether he said woman or people

b) I would (& did ) call Cameron & many of his merry crew "stupid man" - ditto B Johnson & others of the current batch of tossers - I'm prety sure Corbyn would too. You are projecting.

just realised - corbyn actually said "stupid w*nkers" - occurred to me when listening to loathsome this am and went back to look :)

I am nota big fan of Nulabour or Corbyn. But women in British media is not too far either. It doesn't matter what his name is, he is the leader of opposition and the leader of second biggest political party in UK. The way Cathy Newman or kunnsberg talk arrogantly when they are interviewing him, completely puts me off. I hate them for that and hence I don't support pseudo-feminists either.

The kick off is because if it had still been Cameron on the other side of the despatch box Corbyn would have said "idiot" or "stupid idiot". He wouldn't have bothered to highlight Cameron's sex.

That is aside from the fact the leader of the opposition should not be calling the PM stupid.

@starcrossedseahorse I'm glad I'm not the only one here following the Murdoch press's line.
I don't actually know whether I think TM is stupid. Inept, certainly. But I can forgive someone for being inept. I find it hard to forgive someone who's dedicated her time in office to protecting the bankers, the property developers and the warmongers, and casting aside the homeless, the refugees and the sick.

I've read on erm, another parenting forum, a lip reader say that he actually muttered, 'stupid wankers'