Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

The 'stupid woman' shows a far more ingrained and insidious viewpoint

Does it though? I've muttered "stupid woman" under my breath as much as I've muttered "stupid man". (both usually when driving). I don't think I'm a misogynist though.

Or maybe I am??

God I really, really have grown to detest the word 'bigot'. Talk about lazy insults...

be grateful that he didn't say 'stupid bitch'

I'm not sure that'd be worse. Someone can you (borderline) profanity in the heat of the moment without it really showing much of their beneath-the-surface nature. I've been called a bastard a few times, I don't think the author of that view really considered me to be a child born out of wedlock and damned in the eyes of god and men (nor the extended patriarchal view of unmarried mothers) - they just picked a swear word.
The 'stupid woman' shows a far more ingrained and insidious viewpoint.

This tweet sums it up for me.

Amy
‏ @Amy_HF
1h1 hour ago

For anyone who is about to lambast #Corbyn for allegedly mouthing “stupid woman” about May at #pmqs, let’s have a bit of perspective: the Tories reinstated the whip so two misogynist sex pests could vote in the Tory no confidence vote. The tories are a party of sexists + bigots

I lipread (profoundly deaf) and he said 'stupid woman', his lip pattern was very clear and the word 'woman' could not be mistaken for 'people'.

It doesn't matter it was in relation to, he shouldn't have said that. Why not say 'how ridiculous' or such instead?!

Theresa May is not stupid. You are perfectly entitled to disagree with her politics and policy but calling her "stupid" is just a lazy insult.

she doesn't do the female sex any favours either what is that supposed to mean?

She is a stupid woman though :/ if a bloke was a twat to me and I called him a stupid man?? What’s the problem

Even saying "stupid idiot" would be enough to earn a censure for unparliamentary language. They don't talk directly to each other (everything is technically directed through the Speaker), and although they often go close to the line, MPs steer clear of personal insults

It's a bit like MNHQ moderation policy: someone can say "Olenna is being a twat", but if someone says "Olenna - you area twat" it will be deleted as a personal attack

she doesn't do the female sex any favours either
Yes of course, a woman in the most powerful position in the UK isn't a role model for girls to aspire to.

Bejazzled exactly.

Being a feminist doesn’t mean that you have to be supportive of all women whatever they do.

Agreed, that's right. But doesn't it mean that you should call out or at least be able to recognise sexist behaviour when you see it?

How about none. He knows the camera is on him. He didn't have to say anything at all. He chose to.

Firstly, I think the camera being on him should be irrelevant tbf.

Secondly, while I agree with you that the so-called leaders of the country shouldn't be called each other stupid anythings, that's not really the point that's being debated here, which is that he shouldn't have called her woman specifically because it's misogynist.

Bertrand I do not support May myself but people are deliberately missing the point if they think that he said this because he thinks that she is stupid. He was not being factual, he said it as a sexist put down and this is the point I am making.

I'm a Corbyn supporter, though less so in recent months, I'll admit, but there's no question what he said was massively inappropriate in the House. I think he did say 'stupid woman' and if so, I would have more respect if he admitted it and apologised. Having rewatched the video, I think it's just conceivable he said 'people', which is still inappropriate imo, but 'woman' would be worse, laden as it is with longstanding misogynistic connotations. What Andrew Neil has to be outraged about I do not know, though.

As with antisemitism, Corbyn forces his loyal supporters to take up immoral positions. Today, people who consider themselves feminists will argue that it's not sexist to call May a "stupid woman"
This tweet says it a nutshell for me

Why ARE you bothering OP? Obviously if you come on a forum and express an opinion people will have different opinions. So if you didn't want to hear those opinions, why DID you bother? This sort of response to disagreement from posters genuinely baffles me.

FWIW I'm cool with what he said - if that is what he said. Where's the lie?

“Also it's great to see (on a feminist board) women clamouring to join in and call Theresa May stupid. Way to miss the fucking point”

Being a feminist doesn’t mean that you have to be supportive of all women whatever they do.

twitter.com/theredroar/status/1075368128551489538?s=21

Pretty sure that’s the smoking gun.

Misogynist and Liar.

Not even remotely the same thing. For a start, ‘woman’ is not a derogatory term like ‘bitch’ or ‘bastard’. To infer that it is is MASSIVELY offensive
Good thing I was quite clearly equating woman with Muslim and black then, isn’t it

That post was to onefoot

Thanks for proving my point so well.

He should have just said something like "Stupid idiot" because what she was saying richly merited it. It was really embarrassing how she kept chuntering on about Christmas to try to avoid talking about anything complicated. Unfortunately when she behaves like that she doesn't do the female sex any favours either.

The country is being shafted and people are talking about this????

Even if you think that casual misogyny is fine (and if you do then this might not be the board for you) then the sheer fucking stupidity of it should surely make you angry. We have the worst government this country has ever had since we stopped letting monarchs make the decisions, sending us through utter fucking incompetence and desperation to cling onto power into the greatest threat to our security since WW2 (and the greatest self-inflicted threat since...when? the Civil War?). It's led by a Prime Minister who is not only deeply personally incompetent but, it now turns out, thinks she can shred our parliamentary democratic norms and run things like the world's least charismatic, most emotionally constipated authoritarian ruler, who last week was so fucking stupid that she thought she could, in the full glare of publicity, simultaneously convince parliament that the EU would come round and the EU that parliament would come round (top tip Theresa: when you say things in public, everyone can hear you).

And what does Jeremy fucking Corbyn do? He hands May and her freakshow of a party the moral highground. Okay, we all know he's not the brightest and seems never to have grown out of the public school 6th form debating society's token socialist mentality which tells you that not only are you always right but also always virtuous (see also: Seamus Milne, the People's Front of Judea's Steve Bannon), but even he should know you don't let yourself get caught like that on camera when for once you actually, finally, have the upper hand.

Still, maybe I'm being unfair expecting him to know that you can't behave like that in the HoC and get away with it - after all, he's only had 35 years working there so he's probably still getting his head round it.

Don't even get me started on the Liberal fucking Democrats