Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

Saying women are stupid is sexist.
Saying stupid women in relation to 1 woman isn't

In the context of today's events I disagree with you.

Also interesting how posters are ignoring MrSlant!

So I still say you've missed the point, so have so many who are frothing at JC's supposedly sexist (but incredibly accurate) comment but don't do the same frothing at Theresa May's policies that are pushing even more women into destitution and poverty

So, another person basically saying that if we complain about Corbyn then we must be pro May. Really?

Saying women are stupid is sexist.
Saying stupid women in relation to 1 woman isn't.

I meet no end of stupid people: men, women, young, old.

He's a stupid man for saying this in parliament in front of all of those cameras.

Oh I am certain he said “woman” . I don’t like him and can easily believe this of him. I just cannot got excited about it when the country is in s h a mess,

Dio I merely read her tweets.

Oh sorry, I thought your last comment about her obviously having political bias was in response to me calling you out for saying what he said is clear even though the experts can't even agree that it's clear.

This was my post. Um I’m not some deluded leftie.

*I dislike corbyn immensely but cmon, who are fucking us up now?
Clue: it’s not corbyn

I too will struggle to vote next time around. I think corbyn is crap but this incident- unlike all the others- is really not ringing my crap-o-meter at all.

starcrossedseahorse

What do you think displays more misogyny?

A woman fronting up a political party whose cuts have the worst impact on other women and their children? Whose cuts mean that thousands of other women have to choose between heating and eating, and being reliant on violent men

or

a man who refers to said woman as a 'stupid woman' (when she has absolutely behaved, 30 seconds before, as a stupid woman)

Theresa May fucking hates other women. Grassroots women, single mothers, disabled women, immigrant women, women who aren't career women. Because every single tory austerity policy affects us, leaves us in poverty and ensures we're more vulnerable to rape and violence.

So I still say you've missed the point, so have so many who are frothing at JC's supposedly sexist (but incredibly accurate) comment but don't do the same frothing at Theresa May's policies that are pushing even more women into destitution and poverty.

Perverse this is sadly so true and I am one of them. Their obsession with identity politics is destroying the party and so many Bromentum misogynists have been let loose on female members.

I also think attempting to put words in other people’s mouths

I'm not putting any words in your mouth! You literally added my opinion (although ironically enough you did embellish it somewhat) to the end of a list of other opinions you disagree with in one long sentence.

Stand back, for once I am an expert in something! I am deaf and I AM a lipreader and have been consulting with my community of lip-readers over on FB, we've probably got several centuries of expertise behind us in this matter. All but one are 100% it was 'woman' and they can explain exactly why but I don't want to copy someone's comments on to here without them knowing. There was one person who didn't think it was woman, she said (to paraphrase) that Labour would be the saviours of the deaf community and anyone with eyes in their head could tell he didn't say stupid. So that clears that up.

As to why, IMHO, stupid woman is worse, it's because woman is said with as much venom as the word stupid, which you don't get when people say stupid man.

Austerity, dead people, asset stripping schools, dead people, less social care, dead people, rising infant mortality rates, losing the NHS, dead people, Brexit and the resultant increase in the extreme politics and racism, did I mention dead people?

Dio I merely read her tweets.

Helmet I have never said that they are as bad as each other, just pointed out that not supporting one does not mean automatic support for the other.

I am used to this mindset as I have a family member who is making their way up the ranks of Momentum. They will not say the word 'Tory' without adding 'cunt' to the end of it and automatically assume that if you are not with them then you are against them and must be a Tory.

Whereas Alison the lip reader has no political axe to grind whatsoever

Okay, so the lip readers that say he said woman are politically neutral, but those that say he said people are not.

What a coincidence!

Corbyn and labour are such a disappointment. They have lost so many female voters over this last year.

Ok then why is that impossiblecat?? I'm really happy to listen.

I’m glad it’s clear, and you now understand what my point is.
I also think attempting to put words in other people’s mouths and creating straw men arguments must be what you do to make yourself feel superior, but there we go.

I don't want to be kind. The things I would like to do to most of the Tory party are not 'kind'.

I might even scowl at them a bit...

Whereas Alison the lip reader has no political axe to grind whatsoever!

Yes I do.

But ‘just as bad as each other’ is lazy thinking. May is a horrendous leader. What’s happening to the country is hugely worrying. Corbyn is not incharge (andnever will be)

Charlie elphicke and Andrew griffiths mps. Nice.

I think we have a politics that reflects us and our current culture. We could all do with being a little kinder to one another, and try to forge strong friendships with those who might not share our politics. We are all human beings at the end of the day, and we are all more similar than we are different.

Arguing against things you disagree with is hardly groundbreaking stuff

You didn't try to argue against anything, you just strung the points you didn't agree with into a long sentence to try to belittle them and make yourself feel superior. And yes, that was very, very clear.

Helmet do you understand how people can be annoyed with what Corbyn said AND be critical of TM too?

DioVelazquez
My point is very, very clear. What Corbyn said is unacceptable and misogynistic. He knows this, which is why he is now lying.
Whether you like or hate May is irrelevant. Whether you’re pro or anti brexit is irrelevant. Left or right. Irrelevant.
The tribalism is ridiculous, and makes people look stupid. In my opinion.
Not sure why you think me stating my opinion means I think I’m ‘clever’, any more than anyone else staring an opposing one.

Should we just not post in this thread if our opinion is different to yours?
Where did I even allude to that? I’m not on the side of shutting down freedom of expression.
Rather than seeing it from the perspective that I think people should not post if they disagree with me, try and think from the perspective ‘everyone with differing views are allowed to equally contribute, and respond to arguments they disagree with’.
Hopefully this helps your understanding.
Arguing against things you disagree with is hardly groundbreaking stuff.