Martina Navratilova states the obvious

In regards to Saville and the BBC / Westminster paedophile ring, a massive open secret which people in power knew about but turned a blind eye to, but the general public suspected for years, some conspiracy theorists might think the it never ended.

Totally unconnected to this current push to breakdown safeguarding and dominate woman.

I hope nobody connects the two unrelated things.

the wold in sheep's clothing is so confident that he can infiltrate the sheep camp that he hardly bothers to disguise his lupine traits

I agree they are fine about the hulking bully aspect, that picture sends out a very clear message, we are getting away with this in plain sight, we have owned you all

it makes me think of Jimmy Saville on TOTP groping young girls right in front of the camera and he feels like a king because he can subvert the rules and no one can stop him

I don't think it bothers them at all, rather. If Mouncey for example had any dysphoria at all the last thing they'd want is photos of them looming massively over women who look as dainty and feminine as can be in comparison all over the media.

In the case of the cyclist and the Aussie football/handball player I think being seen as the hulking bully bothers them at all, if they were honest. Whatever their motivation is, it's not dysphoria.

(Comment rules preclude being too honest about what I suspect their motivations are.)

they want to caricature and mock women, can you imagine the triumph they feel at wiping the floor with women in sport

The great hulking man holds aloft the trophy, on either side of him on the podium the women who lost to him

they know they've been duped, he pulled a fast one and there he is congratulating himself, how clever, openly publicly taking the piss and there's nothing they can do without being accused of being transphobic, bad losers etc

That "trying to help" part reads as 100% pure cluster B.

I've always thought sport would be the battlefield where the war is won. After all no one cares about the feelings and safety of women prisoners, women in rape shelters, teens in their unisex loos.
But sport is different as it involves money, big money in many disciplines.
Rachel has done more to further the cause (of keeping men out of Women's sport and alerting the world to the madness of the doctrine) than Rachel will ever know.

And I really do love how little insight these people have. Whether it's Rachel, the world champion and world expert, with her 4692 twitter followers, bullying a much loved and respected sports champion (250k followers and a blue tick) or Haddock (who incidentally has 6599 followers) making a fool of himself raging at Posie, it never occurs to them that others might not perceive their actions favourably and they are making big fat fools of themselves.

Let them keep in digging their own holes I say while the rest of us get to laugh on the sidelines.

I agree. A close friend has just divorced a narcissist and McKinnon’s tweets are just like something he would write to her. Giving out advice in a patronising tone as if he’s doing her a favour. Again she is very successful and he is not.

I agree.

I used to think TRAs wanted to be women first and then became resentful of real women because of it; now I think that most are resentful of women first and then want to be women because of that.

a lot of male humans eager to punish women
the woman part of the transwoman is but a thin veneer beneath which the pillars of masculinity are alive and kicking

There sure are a lot of male humans eager to punish women for being so uppity in the TRA camp, aren't there? Almost as if that was key to the whole movement.

Sorry if it’s already been referred to but the last tweet by Mckinnon on this thread ‘I hope you see your way to regretting how you’ve handled this’ reminds me so much of Harrop saying he hoped someone had learned a valuable lesson.
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Still laughing at "do you know who I am?"

Not previously, though now a great many people do know Rachel as "that arrogant buffoon who cheated their way to one championship and then tried to pull rank on Martina Navratilova".

Legacy, eh?

Linking to Martina's tweet for anyone who can't see images: twitter.com/martina/status/1076860661693440000?s=21

Bloody GOLD.

I’ve always admired Martina and her ability to say what she believes.

The idea of women being victimized and helpless certainly seems to be part of the fetish.

Secondly - some men also actively enjoy the idea of women suffering.

Is that the reason? Ugh.

Firstly - some men can fetishise anything. Violence, shit, nonhuman objects - name it and there's a man wanking to it right now.

Secondly - some men also actively enjoy the idea of women suffering.

I've had other types of bad muscle cramps but they're nothing remotely like dysmenorrhea, the only thing that compares is, unsurprisingly, labour pain.

Yes, I've had both. Very similar. I was 13 when I first got dysmenorrhoea. Nothing touched it. I missed a school day, once a month.

I can understand how some men fetishise women's oppression. I can see how power can gratify. But periods? Not in a million years.

I've had other types of bad muscle cramps but they're nothing remotely like dysmenorrhea, the only thing that compares is, unsurprisingly, labour pain.

Similarly, as a dysmenorrhea sufferer for many years, I've never had labour pains but I have also suffered awful IBS cramps.

If forced to choose one to have over the other, I'd go with IBS any time - especially as sometimes medication made it go away. Not so with the dysmenorrhea.

Occasionally I got both at once. That wa s possibly the closest I ever got to experience what labour must be like pain-wise.

insisting that the hormones created all the symptoms of a menstrual cycle except the blood

And dysmenorrhea... beyond the imagination of anyone who doesn't have a uterus, in same sort of way I've no idea what being hit in the bollocks would feel like and wouldn't dream of comparing any physical symptom I might have to that. I've had other types of bad muscle cramps but they're nothing remotely like dysmenorrhea, the only thing that compares is, unsurprisingly, labour pain.

Good for her. I wish more people had the guts to speak out against this nonsense! Women’s rights are being eroded as we speak. This can’t go on unchallenged.