Page 12 | Martina Navratilova states the obvious

Glinner · 2018-12-19T12:16:11+00:00

[[https://twitter.com/Martina/status/1075193284660785153]] At first I was delighted to see this--at last a big name in women's sport is speaking up!-- but then I got angry all over again that this utterly obvious point has to be explained to an adult, in this case, a Guardian journalist. It boggles the mind.

waxy1 · 22/12/2018 11:36

It read as though at a certain point, Martina realised she was sailing close to arguing with an idiot on the internet.

FloralBunting · 22/12/2018 11:32

Enjoy it, my friends. We've had precious few of these kinds of moments, and there will be a riposte at some point, but today the sun is shining and we have pressed forward.

GenderIsAPrison · 22/12/2018 11:30

Is the man capable of having a ‘f**k, what have I just done moment’ you think?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/12/2018 11:30

Re: David baddiel, it’s tentative but

NotTerfNorCis · 22/12/2018 11:27

Do you think MckInnon has understood McKinnons overreach yet?

McKinnon is being very quiet today...

SophoclesTheFox · 22/12/2018 11:24

Am very much enjoying McKinnons massive hubris taking on Martina and in such a deliciously unhinged manner.

Do you think MckInnon has understood McKinnons overreach yet?

IfNotNowBernard · 22/12/2018 11:19

That was a reply to errol btw

derxa · 22/12/2018 11:19

As if I couldn't love Martina any more

IfNotNowBernard · 22/12/2018 11:19

I can't see why not. Martina Navratilova is a legend whose legacy is part of the fabric of the establishment nowadays. Why hasn't she been "knighted or whatever?" We need
Dame Martina

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/12/2018 11:17

Hadn’t considered it from that perspective but fuck yes!

ErrolTheDragon · 22/12/2018 11:14

It's a woman, an honest to goodness woman, a lesbian no less, famous for her own achievements and courage.

I wonder if anything ever said by such a person has ever gained such unanimous support from DM commenters?

Iused2BanOptimist · 22/12/2018 11:13

Here's the tweet about the thirteen year old. Screen grab from the twitter backlash so I'm not sure of the background.
I hope Martina has had a good look at Rachel's twitter feed though. I've just been having a scroll through on my other twitter account. Almost every tweet is
It's hard to pick out the best. If you're blocked and haven't got a second account it's worth getting one just for the lols.

HandsOffMyRights · 22/12/2018 11:12

So great to see Alison Moyet back on Twitter defending Martina. Come on Caitlin Moran, David Baddiel and co. your turn now?

Alison Moyet (@AlisonMoyet) Tweeted:
.@Martina Navratilova was a beacon for gay pride and dignity at time when there was no cyber wall of liberals to defend her. She is no ally. She was the vanguard.
She is a veteran.
Respect, won already.

Alison Moyet (@AlisonMoyet) Tweeted:
.@Martina Navratilova was a beacon for gay pride and dignity at time when there was no cyber wall of liberals to defend her. She is no ally. She was the vanguard.
She is a veteran.
Respect, won already.
#OverAndOut twitter.com/AlisonMoyet/status/1076416020028510209?s=17

HumberElla · 22/12/2018 11:10

Floral Absofuckinglutely!

AngryAttackKittens · 22/12/2018 11:09

The comment with the highest number of recommends, starting with the sentence "Martina Navratilova is correct." has currently 535 recommendations. I have never seen such a high number for any comment in the Times under a trans-related article.

People are not stupid. They know that this is complete nonsense. The question is whether any politician with real clout will have the courage to say what most of the country is thinking.

Datun · 22/12/2018 11:08

It's a woman, an honest to goodness woman, a lesbian no less, famous for her own achievements and courage.

Yes!

FloralBunting · 22/12/2018 11:06

Do you know what makes me the happiest about this? It's a massive story, in relative terms, and it's probably going to bring this issue to an even wider audience, and it wasn't a man, with a man's fame and privilege that brought it to everyone's attention.

It's a woman, an honest to goodness woman, a lesbian no less, famous for her own achievements and courage.

That's not how I thought it would go down, and I am elated.

Igneococcus · 22/12/2018 11:04

The comment with the highest number of recommends, starting with the sentence "Martina Navratilova is correct." has currently 535 recommendations. I have never seen such a high number for any comment in the Times under a trans-related article.

NotTryingHardEnough · 22/12/2018 11:01

sackrifice and howard well, apart from those, yes. But ykwim.

Wordthe · 22/12/2018 11:01

I think Martina may have moved things on towards an inflection point

arranbubonicplague · 22/12/2018 10:58

I'm with the commenter in the screen shot who gently queries Jo Maugham's Hear, Hear given his previous pusillanimous behaviour and equivocation.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/12/2018 10:43

McKinnon really has done a sterling job of peak transing people. And martina’s courage has emboldened some equivocators to speak up

Wordthe · 22/12/2018 10:36

Go Martina😊
they were talking about her on LBC this morning unfortunately I got sidetracked and forgot to listen🙄

AngryAttackKittens · 22/12/2018 10:35

Alison Moyet is correct. It is McKinnon who can only hope to one day be considered an ally by Navratilova.

You're not doing very well so far, Rachel, it has to be said.

AnyFucker · 22/12/2018 10:32

Emma Watson take note