Reddit moved to ban criticism of the trans movement

Genderhammer.com is a newish site specifically for discussion of gender critical stuff

Ok, I don't get this post.
"Reddit used to allow talk about anything, but have felt moved to ban paedophilia and hate speech."
Good! That's a good thing! Or do you mean remove hate but only if it's not my hate?

Mumsnetters pointed me to the GenderCritical subreddit a while ago when I asked where to find more American content, and I've found it very informative.

Besides being more (though not exclusively) American and Canadian, I think the demographic there skews younger than Mumsnet. This translates into a lot of very moving first-hand testimony from female detransitioners and from young lesbians being pressured to take "girldick" as well as all the other garden-variety misogyny women experience.

I find the Reddit visual format really cluttered and off-putting, but it's worth visiting for the content.

This is but the latest iteration of the very worrying global trend to silence gender critical women, and of a specific... effort, I'll say... to scrub the internet of critical mentions of JY, the person bringing multiple human rights tribunal complaints against Canadian estheticians who declined to wax JY's male genitalia.

I am trying to be extremely cautious with language here because JY has been successful in getting many major sitesmost notoriously Twitter in the case of Meghan Murphy's permanent ban and Wordpress in the case of the deletion of GallusMag's entire GenderTrender-to utterly erase criticism of JY and deplatform JY's female critics.

Would actually appreciate some guidance from @MNHQ regarding what we are and are not allowed to say re: JY, as other sites' admins have banned users even when moderators didn't believe posters had breached any rule.

Olenna If you really want to see something, order by controversial rather than new or popular... you may need though.

Don't know anything about Reddit except what I've read in here, but clicked that transpassing link just to see. I was surprised how many there were. Why are so many young people effing up their bodies and their reproductive systems (I know the two things are linked )? What the buggery bollocks are they all getting out of this? I just can't understand. Are they all inadequate young men who aren't very good at anything and not attractive to either sex thinking it'll be easier to be a 'cute' girl? (A certain student springs to mind). I just don't get it

CaptainKirksSpookyGhost that's exactly it, they cannot stand/tolerate any female with a smidgeon of intellect.

And yet REddit hosts r/transpassing where people post pictures of themselves (including fairly intimate bits of themselves) to ask the internet to decide "Do I pass?"

(Spoiler alert: the real answer is usually "no", but the post replies are usually "yes! You're so cute!"")

I am astounded there are so many men who truly seem to believe women are incapable of independent thought.

That's why this site is so dangerous, not only is it full of women thinking, it's full of women doing unwoman like things like drinking and swearing. It goes against the stereotypes and command chain.

Yeah I don't have proof but I suspect the incel movement has it's roots there.

You could sum the whole movement up as "I hate women, why don't they want to suck my cock and wash my socks for me?"

I could read it in wide eyed horror/fascination all day, but some of the stuff on their is stomach churning, I am astounded there are so many men who truly seem to believe women are incapable of independent thought.

*other

Well damn. I was on reddit for a while and never dared go there. for you brave women. From just what I've seen on ther parts of reddit you're probably gonna need it.

MGTOW is an odd mix of comically batshit and terrifying.

I peeped at the MGTOW section too, Jesus H Christ.

Aarrrrghh
I just made the mistake of looking at MGTOW on Reddit. It reads like a comedy sketch. Suddenly I love all the normal men in my life a little bit more.

In fairness I actually would have thought the same thing. When I first saw the name Mumsnet I assumed it was similar to websites like essential baby. By the time I'd seen it my boys were older and I didn't feel I needed child rearing advice or baby sleeping tips.

What caught my attention was a thread popped up when googling about the Rose McGowan drama. I checked it out and... well wow not what I expected at all. Lurked for a while then decided to throw my GC hat in the ring.

That's the genius of 'Mumsnet' as a title for a website. Couldn't have picked a better title if you wanted to keep a website female dominated.

I honestly just mentioned it recently in front of my father and he pulled a face like it was beyond contempt. Despite being married to a mum and the father of a mum. Some misogynists have realised we discuss sexual politics and feminism here, but most just hear the name and assume it's wall-to-wall chat about our babies' nap schedules.

True. You would also need to promote it as homemade non toxic cleaning products.

Dana I have previously thought that the only way to hold a women-only gathering (and to ensure that it is only women with vaginas) would be to call it a 'swap-meet to chat and discuss household cleaning techniques for busy working mummies' (horrible term intentional).

I guarantee you it would be penis repellent!

In all honesty the only possible place on reddit to express gender critical views, if gender critical sub reddit is deleted, would be the true crime type sub reddits. I think one is called r/unresolved mysteries. Of course you could only really discuss violence against women and have some dudes do the usual NAMALT.

It really is such a male centric website (I say this as a woman that generally gets on ok with men) it's so blatantly misogynist I avoid it. Especially when I discovered their protection of (supposedly deleted) paedophile sub reddits.

One possible way to have a gender critical discussion would be maybe if a few gc podcasts have a thread under a podcast sub reddit. It would have to be subtle otherwise probably end up brigaded (Ha still know some of the reddit lingo). Or else maybe make (again) a subtle thread or comment on stories if there's a sub reddit for your city/town?

I can't believe I need to suggest subterfuge in 2018. Feeling Nancy Wake vibes.

If the gender critical sub-Reddit gets banned, surely people could post gender critical views on other sub-Reddits?

Reddit is at least 50% cesspit. It is very male-centric and male-dominated - even the subreddits that are specifically supposed to be devoted to women or feminism or even lesbians I have heard. Or perhaps especially these, as they attract misogynists for obvious reasons.

The mods on gender critical have to be extremely active because porn/prostitution/pedophilia/transactivism apologists are constantly trying to derail and ruin everything. It's the only subreddit I've ever seen that is unapologetically and uncompromisingly female-centric (I hear there is also a subreddit for lesbians that does not include men, but haven't read it myself). Men are allowed to post in good faith but what-about-the-men tactics and other misogyny and dreailing are not tolerated.

If you tried to post the same content in other areas of Reddit I think it would either be deleted or any actual feminist discussion would immediately be buried by a tidal wave of misogyny. Gender Critical is a very rare oasis on that site - the radfem mods are unfortunately completely necessary for the discussion to even take place at all.

Thanks to GC I know every slimy detail about the Canadian man who I am not sure I am allowed to name on here but I think we all know - and so do thousands of other people. I know what he looks like, I know his name and his alias, I know a large number of disgusting things he has done. I think GC is a huge target for banning but the cat is well and truly out of the bag on that guy's identity. I really hope he doesn't manage to take the whole community down.

And there was a long running subreddit called the red pill, which was incel central