West Yorkshire Police

popchyk funnily enough I’ve just turned that FOI up as well

I think definitely worth persuing it.

Satire is not a crime

Apparently on twitter it is, witness the banning of Godfrey Elfwick and Titania McGrath (now reinstated). So it looks like it's spreading, no satire, no parody.

What a miserable life to be endlessly looking for offence. If it wasn't becoming so totalitarian I'd feel sorry for these people. When did people lose the ability to laugh.

Yes, the Commissioner states:

"The Commissioner also notes that the police explained that locating information from 2014 onwards would take minimal effort, in this case, 20 searches".

So a new request, requesting information from 2014 onwards should be successful.

I wonder if the West Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner knows what's going on.

Also if you could identify an individual or role/section within the organisations and ask only for correspondence between them that would again narrow the request.

If the FOI request could be tightened up time wise, so just between x date and y date, and those dates are not too expansive, they would probably not be able to use the time consuming excuse. Depends on how lengthy a period the original FOI covered.

Did anyone see this adjudication of an FOI request?

Information Commissioner Decision Notice

Somebody asked to see the correspondence between West Yorkshire Police and Mermaids.

WYP responded that it would be too time-consuming to provide that information (section 12). Then then had an internal review and stated that they were no longer relying on section 12 and were rejecting the request based on section 14 (vexatious request).

Later, WYP stated that they were now rejecting section 14 and were now relying on section 12 (too time-consuming) to reject the request.

Lots of alarm bells ringing there.

Leeds Council is betting its future as LGBT central so probably the "friendly" police are all part of the draw card.

W Yorks is misogyny central and always has been.....

A crime still needs to have been committed to be a hate crime

I'm not entirely sure the same laws apply to TRAs...

A crime still needs to have been committed to be a hate crime.

Satire is not a crime.

scrutiny panels. that doesn’t sound like something from the ministry of truth at all

An interesting FOI request would be:

Officer hours per week spent
Minutes of scrutiny panels
Percentage activity spent on race/disability/religion/based hate crimes vs transgender (isnt the protected category gender reassignment?)

Also note which actually protected characteristic isn’t there? Why, sex!

Trans activists claim the third space option won't work because there aren't enough trans people to make them work.

I'm glad to see their fears are not justified.

Just having a nose around the WYP website, I came across this:

Members of the public and local Police Officers come together every six weeks to scrutinise how the Police have responded to hate crime / incident reports. These are called Scrutiny Panels.
The Panel will select a sample of reports made and look at how they have been dealt with. Their recommendations are acted upon as appropriate.

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/advice/abuse-anti-social-behaviour/hate-crime/hate-crime-hate-incidents/hate-crime-scrutiny-panels

It would be interesting to see who is on the WYP Hate Crime scrutiny panel.

The North Yorks police hate crime section was clearly written by the work experience student:

Hate crime is any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice based on a person’s:
Disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender:
Perceived disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender

northyorkshire.police.uk/what-we-do/tackling-crime/crimes-against-the-person/hate-crime/

On a person's "transgender"? Have they invented a new noun?

There is a post earlier this year that says that in her TEDx talk susie green says that her child’s close friend while they were transitioning is a member of the West Yorkshire police hate crime unit.

I havent seen the talk so I can’t verify this. However if true, it’s interesting.

Yes, there are a handful of officers that get heard. It may be that Diversity crimes get more attention (there will be a handful of officers pushing this priority throughout the force). Sometimes it is right sometimes it is wrong but the majority of the public just want the crimes that affect them to be prioritised. I.e. burglary, criminal damage, car crime, etc. Other communities want hate crime, ASB etc prioritised. You get the police force you vote for.

So the polis work on trendy crime. Is that a policy now ?

But how do they get heard fin?
That’s the bit I don’t understand
If I don’t have a trendy crime
It’s just me car got broke into yet I can’t afford to get window fixed
So me and car not trendy enough

Godwin's law has been suspended - for a reason.

Yes of course crime is trending. Proper crime is always trending. My point is that trendy crime is also at the forefront and those who shout loudest get heard.

What happened in Hitchen

One of our favourite "lawyers" set the police on a female in Hitchen because they were "harassing" them. Same "lawyer" now claims to have an injunction against this woman to prevent her "misgendering" them.

It's funny how these individuals always to after those they perceive as weaker than them.

So crime is not trending now

Really just really ffs

But the whole thing is just biazzare
It’s like green has a private police force running about doing her biddingb

Not so long ago West Yorks police told DH that criminal damage and theft of his property was a civil matter and nothing to do with them. I wonder if they'd have acted differently if he'd self id'ed as a woman 🤔

Littlebrown, it depends on what is trending. It depends on what will give a force awards for diversity and being inclusive. The real victims of hate crime get left by the wayside. Most coppers know this but are pawns in the fuckwittery of senior management bubble of "I must appear inclusive without any critical thinking or I may not get promoted" waffle.

Needmoresleep Rotherham is in South Yorks. Posie had also said on her FB video that she'll be interviewed by her local police in Trowbridge in the new year. What happened in Hitchen?