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Recording of Mermaids training

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Imherefornow · 18/12/2018 15:40

twitter.com/MichaelConroy68/status/1074723989308801026?s=19

Apologies if this has already been posted. Did a quick search and didn't find anything.

Michael Conroy attended and recorded a mermaids training session. It's hair raising listening.

I believe that someone is working on transcribing this, which will hopefully make it easier to analyse. But wanted to post it to make sure it hadn't been missed.

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WallyTheWasher · 18/12/2018 20:32

I don’t think it’s illegal to record someone talking. What offence would it be?

newtlover · 18/12/2018 20:27

AFAIK, it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge and consent, and publishing such a recording would presumably be even more illegal (technical term)

Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:23

Yes, every one was really quiet Hmm. It reminded me of the 'testimonials' in the church that advocates personal communication with God through baptism with the holy spirit, youth group that I misspent a thankfully short period of my youth attending. Wink

There is not much you can say after you have been told that light and dark is a spectrum though.

Melamin · 18/12/2018 20:17

It is something worth looking out for if we get access to another copy of the recording.

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 20:11

I didn't listen carefully, its a general comment which I thought worth flagging up.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 18/12/2018 20:04

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ShineOnHarvestMoon · 18/12/2018 20:03

Michael Conroy is a hero. He does such good work - and because he's a man, can stay under the radar. Unlike some of us ...

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 19:50

There may be.

Its not just whether they identify 'child X'
the content of the comment could also identify the person attending by what they may have said.

It seemed likely most were attending in a professional capacity.

Training such as this usually starts with reassurance 'there are no stupid questions' etc
It would not be fair to enable scrutiny of comments and questions made in good faith.

The focus should be solely on Mermaids training, information and guidance.

Melamin · 18/12/2018 19:43

I didn't hear anything that could be considered identifying. It was mostly the trainer rattling on. Didn't get to the end. It is a very uphill thing to listen to. So many layers of woo.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 18/12/2018 19:40

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Imherefornow · 18/12/2018 19:20

Thanks Rowantree. I will ensure that any identifying information will be redacted.

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VickyEadie · 18/12/2018 19:16

I can't imagine why Mermaids might not want people to hear their training - it's almost as if it might undermine their claims...

ViragoKnows · 18/12/2018 19:15

Following

donquixotedelamancha · 18/12/2018 19:14

Very important points above from R0wantrees. If there is identifying information, that explains why it's being taken down.

It would be great if (in the fullness of time) someone could do a beeped out version which could be made public.

R0wantrees · 18/12/2018 19:04

Re any possible transcription, do make sure that no comments by those attending the training session which may identify children they work with are included.
This information must be redacted.
Its safeguarding

It may also be appropriate to summarise & anonymise comments or questions from the trainees except for the man consciously challenging some of the Mermaids' representative's claims.

Its the training which needs evaluation.

Imherefornow · 18/12/2018 18:54

Hi, I can't believe it's down again! I am working on a transcript, but with Christmas and stuff, it'll take a bit of time

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OvulaRasa · 18/12/2018 18:48

Gone. On the £500k thread there are post about a wonderful person doing a transcription, so it should be downloaded somewhere.

Maybe there has been threats to how ever posted the recording?

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 18/12/2018 18:33

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ImPreCis · 18/12/2018 18:24

So we can’t listen to a training session by Mermaids, you know that squeaky clean, open, all inclusive organisation, that the Big Lottery has just funded to the tune of £500k, using public money?

Melamin · 18/12/2018 17:44

Oh bum - still have it on my screen but don't think it will download now. Sad

Qcng · 18/12/2018 17:41

Imherefornow
Without putting undue pressure on you, seeing as you have a downloaded copy of the audio, could you possibly produce a summarised transcript or even total transcript, for the sake of public knowledge?

Qcng · 18/12/2018 17:37

Melamin it's gone for me.

VodkaRevelation · 18/12/2018 17:27

Very keen to hear/ read what’s on that recording. Why would there be anything in their training they didn’t want anyone else to hear?! Very intruiging!

Melamin · 18/12/2018 17:24

Has Michael got suspended?

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