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Women 'risk health over trans NHS worker fear' article in tomorrow's Times Scotland edition

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PlectrumElectrum · 17/12/2018 23:38

Only have tweet link to front page so far.

https://twitter.com/thetimesscot/status/1074802181809803267?s=21

If anyone has a share token & can link to that when article online, I'd appreciate it 🙏🏻

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PlectrumElectrum · 18/12/2018 00:52

I thought the Equality Act allowed exemptions and besides, patients are allowed to request same sex practitioners.

100% this. Smear tests, mammograms etc. are carried out for the health & wellbeing of the patient, not for validation of the fucking HCP! It's a proportionate means (to exclude TW from providing intimate treatment) to achieve a legitimate aim (to ensure there are no unnecessary barriers/encourage as many women as possible to seek treatment or attend screening).

It's basic logic & an absolute outrage that any NHS dept fails to consider the impact this absurd trans policy has ON THE WOMEN WHO ARE AT RISK without this treatment/screening.

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BubonicTheHedgehag · 18/12/2018 00:49

“If someone is telling me they’re female, when I can see that they’re male, I’m already thinking the worst. They’re already lying to me. I would leave.”

This is so true, and it is heartbreaking. Women being unable to access vital healthcare because of arsehole men gaslighting us that they are women. And the power structures accepting the arsehole men as women, on their own say-so, and sod what women are saying.

We are still saying No and we will still campaign for keeping men out of women's spaces - especially women's intimate care spaces - but keeping men out of all women-only spaces, really - because otherwise, men just take over.

bluescreen · 18/12/2018 00:40

Elizabeth Garrett Anderson must be turning in her grave.

TwistedStitch · 18/12/2018 00:38

'Unless the practitioner consented, to exclude them from carrying out female-only care would be a breach of section 22 of the Gender Recognition Act 2004, and a criminal office.'

This is what NHS Lothian are claiming- is it true? I thought the Equality Act allowed exemptions and besides, patients are allowed to request same sex practitioners. It's worded in an awful way, almost implying that women are committing a crime if they say no and at the very least not creating an environment where they feel comfortable to do so. It's unacceptable that on being approached for a statement the health trust haven't reassured women that they are entitled to a choice.

PlectrumElectrum · 18/12/2018 00:35

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BetsyM00 · 18/12/2018 00:28

Thanks Badger.

BetsyM00 · 18/12/2018 00:22

Think this is the article but I can't do share tokens...

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/women-risk-health-over-trans-nhs-workers-fear-5dvz86f2l

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