Boys can have periods! The Times

It's time we get used to the fact that "people" have periods, not girls or women.

www.mooncup.co.uk/using-mooncup/can-i-use-the-mooncup-if-ive-just-started-my-periods/

If you, your parents, or your cultural community have strong feelings about the hymen, you should not use the Mooncup at this stage in your life (you can read more about the Mooncup and the hymen here).

But what is really important to note is that while people have periods, only the female people have to question if their male religious community leaders think they should be allowed to risk their hymen.

If you, your parents, or your cultural community have strong feelings about the hymen, you should not use the Mooncup at this stage in your life (you can read more about the Mooncup and the hymen here).

If you, your parents OR your cultural community.

How woke is that? A menstrual cup company ignoring that it is young girls that have periods but never forgetting that their hymens really belong to a series of men.

merrymouse

I have made a right mess of trying to comment on this thread. No I don't believe men have periods, only women have periods. Brighton and Hove council were correct in one sense in stating that trans boys and trans men might periods, but they know perfectly well that is because they are still biologically female.To suggest that children should be taught that boys can have periods too is an attempt to confuse for the purposes of propaganda. Which is why, as I said in an earlier post schools must always teach children the correct facts about male and female biology, otherwise we really are lost.
Perhaps I should have just put what I thought when I initially read the Times article, that the Brighton and Hove council should be told to leave teaching to the teachers, and not try to impose their agenda on the local schools.
I enjoy reading the various threads on Mumsnet, for their wit, passion and intelligence, but I seem to have made a right bish of contributing my thoughts on this thread. Apologies for the seeming incoherence.

When I was at school there was one lad who would turn up wearing a vicars bib and dig collar. No one blinked any eye (or treated him as a vicar).

It’s what teenagers to!

How do these mad things get put into practice? Is there no system for evaluating materials that end up in schools these days?

You have to wonder. Surely if one group can claim special reasons for putting their view forward, then other groups will follow on and do the same. There is never only one special group. The needs of the children and access to high standards of education should prevail.

Fywl

Our secondary school is actually quite large, more than a 1000 students but dd, who is quite atuned to this issue, only ever mentioned one student who is trans and there is one boy who likes to wear dresses and make up but is quite clear about being a boy who likes to wear dresses.

I read the article, and technically Brighton and Hove City Council are correct. Trans boys and men will have periods if they haven't had hysterectomies, and so will non binary people if they happen to be of the female persuasion.

And people with brown hair can have periods and people with freckles can have periods and people who support Arsenal can have periods.

However, only females have periods.

Periods don't randomly happen to people, women have periods.

This really is so back to front. It's completely bonkers that not recognising the key characteristics of a group a people who still can't vote in many parts of the world is seen as progressive.

I don’t understand how the decision is made that a boy is trans - rather than gay or just an ‘effeminate’ male? Has it become preferable for the parents to decide that the child has a ‘medical issue’ (born in the wrong body - however that is supposed to work) rather than being gay (or effeminate)?

Fywl I am in a similar area, small secondary in rural Scotland with trans children (all, so far, born female and identifying as male)
My DCs primary hasn't covered any type of trans stuff (yet)
Sadly the SNP, in its desperate rush to look cool and progressive, is letting our children down badly

utterly ridiculous - I have no other words for it

I was reading a thread about trans inclusive sex education on Twitter.

Apparently phrases such as "most boys have penises" should be used...

This orthodoxy is only going to hurt children, and as always the most vulnerable and going to be hurt most.

Actually tho we were told you couldn’t wash your hair when you had your period lol

By teachers or the school nurse?

I'm 60 and no such thing was ever said by any of those people. I remember a few myths being propagated by other teenagers, however.

Actually tho we were told you couldn’t wash your hair when you had your period lol

Next up: chemists are bigots.

So, basically, you're trying to imply that trans fats are not really fats, eh? Who's the bigot now?

My pre-schooler (female) already knows what periods are and that girls have them and boys do not.
The only upshot for me (trying to be positive here) of this nonsense is that I am forcing myself to swallow all my British awkwardness about sex, gynaecology and genitals and make sure my daughter knows BIOLOGICAL FACTS in an age appropriate way of course. So that if this shite ever comes to our semi rural backwater she has some grounding. Back in the 80s, my parents left it to the school. You shouldn’t do that now.

Bull not Bill. Bull may be called Bill though.

This would be interesting in the farming community.

Bill don’t go into that field! The bill is in there!
Well that’s very assumptive of you. Just because ‘they’ had testicles you can’t assume that they are not a lovely moo cow who can give milk. Isn’t that right ‘daisy’? Look she is pregnant!

Seriously. Why even teach biology? All we need to do now is to allow someone to say that they are something that they demonstrably are not and - hey presto! - they are whatever their feelz say they are.

While we're at it, let's stop teaching physics, too. I am sure that the laws of physics aren't inclusive, either.

Next up: chemists are bigots.

Any other time and people would be asking about what’s in the water supply.

I can’t imagine any little boy who ‘feels like a woman’😒 going ‘bah, what a shame, I want periods!!!’ If told that women have this (how and why).

99% of the class will be 😳😳😱😱😰😰🥴😵😵😵

I hate this

I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.

I have an acquaintance who has always been very quiet and kind and gentle. In recent weeks she's completely changed. She's posting rants about radical feminists being exclusionary and hounding people off twitter. She thinks the word 'bleeder' is inclusive (I think it's monumentally offensive even as a joke). She's coming out with all sorts of scientific rubbish. I've honestly lost all respect for her.

This movement is doing such huge harm. I feel so powerless watching it progress.

Benjamin Butterworth just on Sky News review of the papers defending this. Suicide 'stats' mentioned a couple of times....

It is awful, more than just a bit ridiculous, and criminal.

I wonder how they expect teachers to get around explaining that menstrual blood is the result of the uterine lining being shed ever month without being all transphobic and mean by mentioning that only one half of the population has a uterus?

Or do they just expect everyone to skip that part and tell the kids that it's magic moonstuff?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale

I was being a bit tongue in cheek with the phrase 'female persuasion' in response to the 'non-binary' usage by Brighton and Hove council.
Shan't use the phrase again I promise.

female persuasion

What the actual fucking fuck? There is no such thing as a "female persuasion". There are two sexes: male and female. The latter ovulate and menstruate. The former don't.

I can't even begin to fathom the stupidity of "female persuasion". God help us all (and I say that as a hard-core agnostic) if this is ignorance of the 21st century.