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Mermaids given £500,000 by National Lottery (Sunday Times)

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crsacre · 16/12/2018 00:51

A transgender charity that campaigns for children to be given prohibited sex-change treatment has been awarded £500,000 by the national lottery.

The payment to Mermaids has angered MPs, feminists and women’s organisations, who accuse the charity of bullying doctors, promoting falsehoods and using “emotional blackmail” to pressure parents to support life-changing medical interventions for their children. Mermaids will use the money to create a network of 45 groups nationwide.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/child-sex-change-charity-handed-500-000-by-national-lottery-dvbt7t2kb?shareToken=cd8d6faad97cd9dd3fe3f16eb3810f45

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 20/12/2018 10:59

This is going to be a recurring theme as we lobby to restore and strengthen safeguarding, unfortunately.

Yep, it's going to take years.

theOtherPamAyres · 20/12/2018 10:56

On Twitter, Times writer Andrew Gilligan, notes that Susie Green is saying to her followers that everything will be fine. He wonders aloud whether the National Lottery have given her cause for optimism and that the so-called review is just a PR exercise.

twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1074991415048966147

A respondent agrees that the Big Lottery will probably continue with the funding because to withdraw such a large amount would be embarressing and too big a story.

This is going to be a recurring theme as we lobby to restore and strengthen safeguarding, unfortunately.

AngryAttackKittens · 20/12/2018 08:09

In terms of the setting children to spy on and denounce their parents part, the film Farewell My Concubine is interesting in terms of being one former Maoist young person who participated in all of that's attempt to atone for and I guess sort of emotionally purge the guilt for what he did during the Cultural Revolution. Some day the young people currently seeking out heretics to burn will be deeply ashamed of what they're doing now, but it will be too late to take back the hurt they caused to others or the damage it did to society.

ChattyLion · 20/12/2018 08:03

bumping this important and useful thread

silentcrow · 19/12/2018 16:35

In terms of historical fiction I just keep going back to Maoist China - Red Scarf Girl is worth a read; or North Korea. It's like deliberate intergenerational warfare - splitting families apart, getting into schools, denunications, shaming the parental and teaching generation. Very effective tactics.

TimeLady · 19/12/2018 11:33

What is their fucking vision for the world?

Creating a dating pool of people

  1. with no breasts or penises
  2. with breasts and penises.
Hmm
AngryAttackKittens · 19/12/2018 11:30

Humans, not known for their ability to learn from history.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:29

I suppose one thing we do have is all that creative output from then to see how this plays out and are forewarned.

And yet, here we are.

WeRiseUp · 19/12/2018 11:28

Disturbingly true spooky

But I suppose one thing we do have is all that creative output from then to see how this plays out and are forewarned.

AngryAttackKittens · 19/12/2018 11:26

I mean, on the thread about Desmond Is Amazing we have a child's parents allowing said child to hang out with a convicted murderer, and a fawning media attempting to frame this as empowering for gay youth. I'm not sure it would even be possible to parody this shit at this point.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:25

Basically anything based on the Political landscape of 1930's europe pretty much covers it.

WeRiseUp · 19/12/2018 11:24

Gallows humour.

AngryAttackKittens · 19/12/2018 11:23

In my "better to laugh than to despair" moments I read the fawning cult-like comments on Twitter and think maybe World War Z wouldn't be a bad comparison. World War T?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:23

Or any Roger Waters album ever?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:22

Anyone remember 'V' The miniseries from the 80's?

LangCleg · 19/12/2018 11:22

I’ll add Fahrenheit 451 into there as well...

If you listen to Jennifer Bilek, there's a lot of Altered Carbon hiding in there as well.

WeRiseUp · 19/12/2018 11:21

To me it is like a Hieronymus Bosch painting.

Bowlofbabelfish · 19/12/2018 11:19

Someone a while back pointed out it's as much ‘brave new world’ as 1984.

I’ll add Fahrenheit 451 into there as well...

Interesting times indeed

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:17

It's not really like 1984, it's a bit like Terry Gilliams Brazil.
Most people in that film are not aware they are oppressed and are happy to go along with it.

Bowlofbabelfish · 19/12/2018 11:15

The truth will come out sooner than later. People will eventually see what's going on

Doubtless they will. So let’s try to make that happen before our laws are changed. And before an entire cohort of young people are sterilised, mutilated and grow up with no boundaries.

AngryAttackKittens · 19/12/2018 11:14

It feels like being stuck in a dystopian novel, honestly. Like some day someone is going to look back and wonder how the hell any of this was ever allowed to happen. Remember that period during which entire societies went insane and being supportive of sterilizing kids and turning them into simulcrums of the opposite sex was viewed as the best litmus test of how progressive a person or an organization was?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:12

I honestly think this is the idea, and this is why so many governments across the world have backed this.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:11

A final solution if you will, making sure people fit into boxes or are eventually wiped out.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/12/2018 11:10

hat is their fucking vision for the world? Replacing all LGB, autistic and gender nonconforming people with a generation of sexless, sterilised, mutilated, lonely adults doing beauty pageants and performances of sex stereotypes until their bones crumble and their vital organs fail?

Well i would assume there's a few different things at play.

  1. a large bunch of people over the age of consent with child like genitalia.
  2. Autism being cured, and thus no more burden on society, not to mention not being able to reproduce.
  3. A reduce in Homosexuals and they are pressured into being Tranmen.
WeRiseUp · 19/12/2018 11:05

How did it all get this far?

It is so obviously there is something seriously wrong with these people - their ethics, decisions and ambitions. What is their fucking vision for the world? Replacing all LGB, autistic and gender nonconforming people with a generation of sexless, sterilised, mutilated, lonely adults doing beauty pageants and performances of sex stereotypes until their bones crumble and their vital organs fail?

I wish for health, happiness and rich variety for human beings. I cannot compute this sterile and sickly vision.