Mermaids given £500,000 by National Lottery (Sunday Times)

I would need to see the safeguarding procedures to determine my opinion on them

Diet: Stop being mean to Mermaids.

Posters on this thread: We are not. They don't apply safeguarding. This is bad. It places children at risk of harm by removing protection from them.

Diet: I don't understand safeguarding. I'd need to read up on it to have any opinion on safeguarding and whether Mermaids might be breaking safeguarding protocols. But stop being mean to Mermaids anyway cos I don't like it and you just are all talking about this because you are transphobic and ignorant.

Posters on this thread: So you don't understand safeguarding?

Diet: Correct I have no clue what you are talking about. So I'm just going to call you transphobic to cover up my own lack of knowledge when it comes to vulnerable children. And not bother to listen, learn or educate myself about it. Cos that would be transphobic to do so as it might mean I might have to criticise Mermaids, and there are no circumstances whatsoever in which this should happen because all the Mermaids do work that is amazingly important.

Posters on this thread: So there should be no scrunity of how Mermaids operate because they help trans children? And Mermaids are incapable of making a mistake, because of the glitter and rainbows they support.

Diet: Correct. Trans children are the most vulnerable children there are, so we should suspend safeguarding protocols because this will protect them.

Posters on this thread: You say you want to protect children, but you said you didn't know what safeguarding was...

Diet: Transphobes!!! Shut up transphobes. Go educate yourselves.

Ok.
Yet this is where we are at. This is how the last couple of pages have gone.

PROTECTING CHILDREN IS ABOUT HOLDING EVERYONE TO ACCOUNT AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW EVERYONE, AND ANYONE OPERATIONS WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Holding people to the same standards of protection is the very opposite of discrimination. We are discriminating against trans kids if we DON'T ask questions about safeguarding of the charities that profess to support them as they would have a lower threshold of safeguarding if we failed to.

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

David Davies has commented on this now, interesting how he says concerns come from across the political spectrum talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-welcomes-big-lottery-funds-review-grant-transgender-charity-18121729229?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1545060205

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

David Davies has commented on this now, interesting how he says concerns come from across the political spectrum talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-welcomes-big-lottery-funds-review-grant-transgender-charity-18121729229?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1545060205

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

Did diet just say that safeguarding doesn’t apply to educating children and would give diets opinion on the safeguarding once they seen them

It's a fucking cult, isn't it - this 'trans takes precedence over everything belief?

This same poster said more or less what Susie Green did about the 'collateral damage' issue of children being medicalised who might otherwise have desisted...

David Davies has commented on this now, interesting how he says concerns come from across the political spectrum talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-welcomes-big-lottery-funds-review-grant-transgender-charity-18121729229?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1545060205

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

Did diet just say that safeguarding doesn’t apply to educating children and would give diets opinion on the safeguarding once they seen them

Bloody hell

Fuck off away from the children, you dangerous person

I agree with Lang

Sorry English was a bit crap but I’m multitasking.

And the idea that we must have ‘education’ on gender in schools.

No no no. Let children be children. Teach them that they can be more than just a narrow stereotype. We do not need toxic gender read men telling our young girls that unless they’re hyper feminine they’re a boy. We do not need little boys who like to play with dolls told they’re girls.

Last week I’ve found my little boy playing with cars (Monday) magformers (Tuesday) and havibg a tea party with a gaggle of girls inside a pink cardboard castle at nursery (Wednesday.) he’s a boy, he can play with whatever he likes. If I heard some organisation was going in to tell him that was wrong I’d hit the roof.

You do have to wonder if it was the comments they received from Mermaids supporters that led them to think that it might be worth giving the decision to donate to them a second look...

All funding should be considered with a fine tooth comb. Just because an organisation asks for funding it doesn’t make them virtuous.

^^ this

All funding should be considered with a fine tooth comb. Just because an organisation asks for funding it doesn’t make them virtuous.

Just remember PIE (not that I’m saying anyone is remotely like this) but they were in the open, has famous faces/politician backing them up and a veneer of respectability. Absolutely gobsmacking and people would have questioned this at the time and been shouted down/threatened for being intolerant.

only of children. Only children are to be neutered and kept prepubescent. The adult males are to be demedicalised and stay intact.

This^
Does anybody really not see why this would be cause for concern.
And why if nothing wrong is happening any good charity dealing with children would welcome this as proof of correct procedure and safeguarding.

Well, you see, obviously all the many people with vast amounts of experience and training who created those safeguarding guidelines know nothing compared to some random on the internet who is now going to determine whether or not safeguarding is a good idea based on how good a job it does of facilitating transition in childhood.

My eyes are bleeding.

You're all a bunch of know nothing bigots. Call yourselves feminists? Pah.

Safeguarding, you say? What's that?

Dear Big Lottery Fund

Are you reading this? Well? Are you?

Best wishes

Lang

Sorry if this is already posted...
www.biglotteryfund.org.uk/news/press-releases/2018-12-17/big-lottery-fund-statement-on-proposed-grant-to-mermaids?fbclid=IwAR1In3jg8LVWyY1lXtDo0WFN_yYTVwSsVdvTHFcAyq-tw6YvBZbC7hy9NRQ

Well, you see, obviously all the many people with vast amounts of experience and training who created those safeguarding guidelines know nothing compared to some random on the internet who is now going to determine whether or not safeguarding is a good idea based on how good a job it does of facilitating transition in childhood.

other than their assigned gender at birth

No one is assigned a gender at birth
No one is assigned a sex at birth.
Sex is observed at birth.
No child is ‘born in the wrong body.’
All children should be supported through periods of unhappiness with their body, gender questioning, sexuality questioning etc in an age appropriate way with adherence to all safeguarding guidelines and good clinical practice.

Anyone pushing practices which tell children their bodies are wrong, and to breach safeguarding should not be allowed within a solar system’s width of any child.

(by dangerous, I mean dangerously ignorant)

The suicide stats presented by mermaids are fake.

They are faked because the ONLY way an ethics decision to give a child blockers is the alternative being death. That’s how harmful these drugs are.

The true rate I think from the Tavistock clinic is under 1%.

The suicide stats are weaponised to quash debate. To blackmail medics into prescribing harmful drugs and to promote early medicalisation.

But only of children. Only children are to be neutered and kept prepubescent. The adult males are to be demedicalised and stay intact.

Nothing to see here, move along

I would need to see the safeguarding procedures to determine my opinion on them

I mean. Seriously. This is what we're dealing with.

Fuck off away from the children, you dangerous person.

If someone can't explain why they support a thing, or believe a thing, it's because they don't actually know why, ime. That being the case why should anyone else give their unsupported and unexplained beliefs any weight at all?