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What is it with Mermaids and the police?

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Macareaux · 15/12/2018 20:49

Following on from the alacrity with which HM constabulary rush to do the bidding of Dr Haddock, here are a couple of tweets by Mermaids Gender showing how cosy their relationship is.

What is it with Mermaids and the police?
What is it with Mermaids and the police?
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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/12/2018 19:20

But but but jimmy saville?

theOtherPamAyres · 20/12/2018 19:18

Who polices the police?

You would be hard-pressed to find an organisation that is more accountable than the UK police service. As well as internal monitoring by line managers and specialist 'discipline' investigators, you'd be hard-pressed to find another set of workers that is routinely recorded, CCTV'd, tracked online and in real time, wearing body cams.

There is a code of conduct to which every police officer must adhere or face the consequences via Chief Officers and the courts.

And then there are layers upon layers of independent scrutineers like:

  1. Her Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary
  2. The Independent Office for Police Conduct
  3. The Minister for Policing, Nick Nurd MP
  4. The Local Authority - holding the Chief Officer to account
  5. Crown Prosecution Service
  6. The Association of Police and Crime Commissioners
  7. The Home Secretary
  8. The Justice Secretary

There are public meetings where officers answer to local communities, and queries from the local and national media are responded to promptly by every police force.

The fact that an MP can raise a question about a police individual, operation or process with the Home Secretary in the House of Commons gives you a flavour of how unrelenting and all-encompassing are the methods to 'police the police'.

arranbubonicplague · 20/12/2018 19:16

EM Pankhurst Twitter thread @ Mermaids mentions Savile and the parties for police:

twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1075033888110624770

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/12/2018 18:51

Who polices the police?

placemats · 20/12/2018 18:48

I'd love the police to come to my house and question me about my gender critical stance, especially when it comes to Mermaids . So far nothing has happened.

Cheshire Police are either so far behind or ignoring this shite.

OvulaRasa · 20/12/2018 18:25

Where are the other threats about Mermaids and Big lottery?

Bowlofbabelfish · 16/12/2018 20:04

Sorry, key member of the west York’s police hate crime unit.

How very interesting.

Bowlofbabelfish · 16/12/2018 20:03

Right. Found it :)

There is a post ages back that says that in her TED talk susie green notes that a key member of the West Yorkshire police was her child’s ‘best friend’ during the time they were transitioning.

There’s your link.

Hello lovely reading journalists! fancy taking a wee look at that?

Terfing · 16/12/2018 14:15

Also, it's nice to see that austerity isn't having such a bad effect on the police force after all!

flyingdragonzog · 16/12/2018 13:38

I don't think it actually has any relevance but it's always helpful to draw associations for the public and gaslight - police work closely because so many trans people are being abused and committing suicide. Never mind that it might not be strictly true or might remove money or attention where it's needed - the T needs the attention more

And also abusers always get "inside" to avoid suspicion... harder to challenge someone who's pals with the police etc

Jimmy Saville was quite friendly with the authorities wasn't he...

Ereshkigal · 16/12/2018 12:25

Why is a police force hosting any Christmas party other than one for its own employees and families?

YY it's just bizarre. Who paid for it? What possible relevance does it have to police work?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/12/2018 09:07

And today the lottery:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/child-sex-change-charity-handed-500-000-by-national-lottery-dvbt7t2kb

Bowlofbabelfish · 16/12/2018 09:03

I seem to remember reading a while back that S. Green (of mermaids) has a close family member high up in WYP? Is that correct?

I cannot imagine the rank and file, dealing with the sharp end of life day in day out are driving this. The police officers I know are grounded firmly in reality - this must be coming from above.

GreenHats · 16/12/2018 09:00

Why is a police force hosting any Christmas party other than one for its own employees and families?

Macareaux · 16/12/2018 07:27

You are right Pam Ayres
Let's hope the article in the Times starts them thinking and triggers an investigation.

Perhaps what we need is some kind of representation to the police from GC feminist groups. I know they are busy but if any of them want to fundraise for this project I'll chip in.

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theOtherPamAyres · 15/12/2018 23:49

How is the police officer at fault?

Mermaids is a charity supported by Children in Need. It advised the makers of a recent ITV drama about a transgender child. Its helpline number is given out by reputable organisations. It is involved in training public bodies and enjoys endorsements from local authorities and the Department of Education.

Unless the officer is tuned into feminist voices on Twitter, or gender critics' carefully worded articles in the Times, Spectator and Mail, then they will have a positive view of the charity. They may even believe that the charity is saving lives.

Until such time as there is a different narrative, I cannot blame the individual police officer. The blame lies with funders and government - the ones who have the power to exercise due diligence, to monitor feedback about the charity and to respond to public disquiet.

BrienneofTERF · 15/12/2018 22:44

Lused you’d be first on the guest list, Grin, lets start ingratiating ourselves with the boys and girls in blue and develop a radical feminist awareness kit for them, TRA is so last year.

Needmoresleep · 15/12/2018 22:38

Were all the parents happy for their children’s faces to be shown on Twitter.

When I helped run a children’s sports club, we were so, so careful. We needed parents written consent and no photos were taken without having permission in advance. The sports centres we used were equally strict.

Or are Mermaids, or the Police, somehow given a pass on this type of thing.

ToeToToe · 15/12/2018 22:36

And I'd like to know who paid for this? It's either charitable donations or a police force said to be in a funding crisis.

ToeToToe · 15/12/2018 22:32

The police are not merely attending community events. They are undergoing intensive "LGBT awareness" training from trans advocate groups.

Manchester Police tweeted their support of the aggressive "Terfs out" sticker campaign in Manchester gay village - that women who were considered 'terfs' would be thrown out of the pubs/clubs there.

They did withdraw the tweet after an outcry - but Manchester Police demonstrated that's where they're at - endorsing women being forcibly removed from premises for their opinion.

Several police forces have paid visits to people due to gender critical tweets - eg Graham Linehan, Posie Parker - but won't attend for actual rape or death threats against women (eg Carolwithnicehair). Come to think of it, they won't attend for actual physical crimes like car vandalism or burglary either.

Something is rotten here.

LizzieSiddal · 15/12/2018 22:28

It would be interesting to know what other Christmas party’s this police force host.

Ereshkigal · 15/12/2018 22:25

The tweeter asks a very pertinent question.

ChattyLion · 15/12/2018 22:18

I like the sound of this party!

RadicalStitch · 15/12/2018 22:17

Post from mermaids. Gross.

What is it with Mermaids and the police?
Iused2BanOptimist · 15/12/2018 22:12

Brienne Grin Can I have an invitation please? Wine

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