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Glinner’s Xmas Break

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tarziew · 15/12/2018 01:16

I just watched Graham’s video tonight where he says he’s taking a break from Twitter over Xmas and I realised that a) we are going to miss him hugely and b) he must be in need of some headspace. The guy is a fucking legend and has taken on this fight to much cost to his reputation, not to mention personal life. I feel such love for the man because he is the ONLY ‘celebrity’ who’s vocal on Twitter who seems to feel as aggrieved and as passionate as I do! It breaks my heart that it might be getting too much for him because if he bowed out I’d feel like they’d won.

Graham, I hope you have a peaceful break over Xmas because if anyone deserves some down time it’s you you bloody ledge.

Thank you so much for all that you do.

❤️

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/12/2018 08:41

You can’t have it all ways, TRAs. Didn’t I hear whisperings that transwomen are basically like menopausal women, given TRAs renamed the correct medical intervention of cross-sex hormones as “hormone replacement therapy”? There is nothing to “replace” by giving the hormones associated with the opposite sex to a male or a female. TRAs seem to have specifically chosen that terminology to make an analogy between menopausal women and males who believe they are women.
So... it’s a little rich now to dismiss women of wisdom and maturity after you’ve co-opted their natural endocrine changes to further your own narrative.
If for nothing else, you will get old too.Wink

Dragon3 · 17/12/2018 08:26

12 million dry menopausal women. It must be scary for them.

VickyEadie · 17/12/2018 08:20

I see that tweet above refers to all MN women as "dry menopausal old women".

They just can't stop themselves reverting to type, can they?

HandsOffMyRights · 17/12/2018 08:11

Somebody on here always says 'They go low, we go high.'

Their underhand, scaremonger tactics. The bullying and doxxing cannot silence everyone.

They can't stop us emailing the Big Lottery, talking to people in real life.

They're full of rage over Andrew Gilligan's excellent piece and Minnymum (waves) has been trying to whip up trouble. Why? What are they all so scared of?

We can and will expose this. It will all come out in the wash. However, I don't want any more children to suffer just because we keep getting blocked.

Sex. Money. Power.

heresyandwitchcraft · 17/12/2018 07:49

Happy Christmas, Glinner! Wishing you and yours a very warm holiday season full of love and joy. Xmas Smile Thanks so much for standing with women and children in this. Massively grateful for your support. StarWineGin
Also, I can’t believe that other thread got taken down! How could it possibly have broken guidelines?

KindOfAGeek · 16/12/2018 23:30

Oops; screwed up my cut and paste (I prefer it to screenshots as more readable, but mistakes)

Second tweet was:

"It's particularly repulsive to do this at Christmas, when many trans people are reminded how lack of family support feels. He also quotes false stats. The medical community is clear: accepting trans kids for who they say they are provides the best outcomes " [quote tweet reference to "Butterfly"]

NotTerfNorCis · 16/12/2018 23:16

I keep reading more and more that the new liberal left has a totalitarian streak. If you see yourself as the biggest victim then you'll believe you have the moral right to silence other people. I am also on the left but I don't believe in crybullying.

ChristmasWrappingTheWaitresses · 16/12/2018 23:12

Thanks for that wow that's dreadful - we're not allowed anything are we? I'm on my phone and my Twitter account is blocked by Paris Lees so couldn't see the tweet.

Did see this though about Mumsnet which shows that they like to come on here and cause troubl. Imagine if we went on to any transgender websites to cause trouble we just wouldn't.

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ToeToToe · 16/12/2018 23:10

Loads of tweeters have just joined up to report that thread? Not on Mumsnet.

That was a valid thread, asking us to send an email to stop half a million quid of lottery money being sent to a "charity" that advocates puberty blockers and surgery - which cause longterm sterility - on children.

This is a parenting forum!

KindOfAGeek · 16/12/2018 23:08

spelling correction: someone who blocks you

KindOfAGeek · 16/12/2018 23:07

The tweets:

Objection to Glinner taking a position:

".@Glinner is urging @MumsnetTowers users to pressure @BigLotteryFund to take money away from @Mermaids_Gender, a vitally important charity for young people and their families. My childhood would have been far less difficult with them. Let Big Lottery know if you feel the same way"

This is of course horrible (appeals to fudged stats):

"This is utterly despicable. I hope @Justine_Roberts removes this post immediately and puts out a strong statement making clear that @MumsnetTowers** won't be used as a place to host anti-trans campaigns that seek to defund charities doing important work to help vulnerable children.[then a quote tweet referencing "Butterfly"]

Claim that opposing position is evil, and attacking the platform that allows opposing positions to be posted:

"This is utterly despicable. I hope @Justine_Roberts removes this post immediately and puts out a strong statement making clear that @MumsnetTowers** won't be used as a place to host anti-trans campaigns that seek to defund charities doing important work to help vulnerable children."

[note: if you're on a computer, all you need to do is open an incognito or private window to see tweets from someone who blacks you.]

NotTerfNorCis · 16/12/2018 23:06

Paris Lees screenshot.

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ToeToToe · 16/12/2018 23:05

*that mumsnet is not going to fall down against the women...

ToeToToe · 16/12/2018 23:04

@glinner thread about Mermaids has been taken down. I'm pretty angry about that actually.

Please tell me it's not ok to advocate for children to undergo surgery, puberty blockers and sex hormones for a gender ideology. Please tell me that's not were our society is going.

Please tell me that Mumsnet is going to fall down against the women advocating to let children be children, and not be constrained by rigid gender stereotypes that tell them they can really change to the opposite sex? Just no.

NotTerfNorCis · 16/12/2018 23:03

The other thread has gone. TRA attack. The message from Mumsnet:

We've taken this thread down overnight as it seems to be causing an awful lot of reports. We've a few things to discuss about it at MNHQ in the morning but we'll let you know as soon as we can what's happening with the thread. Thanks for your patience.

Yeahnahyeah · 16/12/2018 22:58

Glinner have a very merry Xmas, I'm so bloody grateful to have your support.

ChristmasWrappingTheWaitresses · 16/12/2018 22:58

Looks like Paris Lees got all their followers to attack Mumsnet tonight. I'm blocked by them on Twitter so can anybody screenshot what the tweet actually said please? The other thread's been taken down which seems a shame really.

Hullabalooo · 16/12/2018 22:45

He truly is a hero!

Ereshkigal · 16/12/2018 22:38

Have downloaded all the episodes of the IT crowd for a nice Christmas treat on my commute this week. Have a splendid and bounteous Christmas with your wife and kids. You deserve it. Xmas SmileWine

DandelionsAreNotLions · 16/12/2018 22:33

Thanks Graham.
You really are brave and stunning.

Destinysdaughter · 16/12/2018 21:57

You’re a bloody hero mate! Saw your video today and you are truly a man of integrity. Thank you so much for being willing to stand up for us and for the truth. History will ( hopefully ) exonerate you. Tons of love to you and all your family! Xmas Smile

tarziew · 16/12/2018 21:10

You’re more than welcome @Glinner! You’re a bit of a hero round these parts!

Have gone to your other thread, will send off that email re: Mermaids now.

Thanks a million and have a fantastic Christmas!

:)

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HumberElla · 16/12/2018 20:40

Noted *Glinner, just seen your other thread re Lottery grant to Mermaids. Email duly sent.

Glinner · 16/12/2018 19:40

Thanks for the kind words, everyone! It means more than you'll ever know. I've started a new thread that might be of interest...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3453053-Mumsnetters-assemble?watched=1&msgid=83374279#83374279

SirVixofVixHall · 15/12/2018 23:10

I’ve just been watching this and wanted to send him a message of gratitiude, but dont want to add to his load of emails. It made me extremely angry seeing his kind, decent face looking stressed and ground down. The wrongness of this.
I am massively grateful to Glinner for everything he has done to stand up for women, and i hope he has the loveliest of Christmasses with his family.