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Glinner’s Xmas Break

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tarziew · 15/12/2018 01:16

I just watched Graham’s video tonight where he says he’s taking a break from Twitter over Xmas and I realised that a) we are going to miss him hugely and b) he must be in need of some headspace. The guy is a fucking legend and has taken on this fight to much cost to his reputation, not to mention personal life. I feel such love for the man because he is the ONLY ‘celebrity’ who’s vocal on Twitter who seems to feel as aggrieved and as passionate as I do! It breaks my heart that it might be getting too much for him because if he bowed out I’d feel like they’d won.

Graham, I hope you have a peaceful break over Xmas because if anyone deserves some down time it’s you you bloody ledge.

Thank you so much for all that you do.

❤️

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FuckOffAndWriteYourOwnArticles · 17/12/2018 16:35

He's an absolute legend and an amazing, valuable ally. Happy Christmas @Glinner!

Bowlofbabelfish · 17/12/2018 16:29

Bet the TRAs wish Glinner had stayed on Twitter!

This raised a wry smile.

You’re VERY welcome here, Graham. Grin it’s a much more productive environment in many ways ...

Apollo440 · 17/12/2018 16:23

Bet the TRAs wish Glinner had stayed on Twitter!

tarziew · 17/12/2018 15:53

Nollaig Shona, Glinner! Agus go raibh mile mile maith agat.

Slainte! Wine

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BlueAndWhiteTunica · 17/12/2018 15:51

Nollaig Shona, Glinner! Agus go raibh mile mile maith agat.

ToeToToe · 17/12/2018 15:26

Big Lottery are reviewing the Mermaids grant - this is good news.

Charities that campaign for damaging medical interventions for children should not be receiving lottery funding. Mermaids campaigning is at odds with both the NHS and Tavistock.

LangCleg · 17/12/2018 14:33

I found that point of view particularly powerful. All women are under threat from this bullshit, but the most disadvantaged women are under the most threat.

Yes. This movement is horrendously classist - an aspect of it which is not discussed nearly enough.

DerRosenkavelier · 17/12/2018 14:11

Thank you LangCleg

I found that point of view particularly powerful. All women are under threat from this bullshit, but the most disadvantaged women are under the most threat.

SirVixofVixHall · 17/12/2018 14:07

Yes. Agree here. This is a parenting forum, we have valid concerns about the trans agenda and the impact this is having on children.

DandelionsAreNotLions · 17/12/2018 14:01

That was a valid thread, asking us to send an email to stop half a million quid of lottery money being sent to a "charity" that advocates puberty blockers and surgery - which cause longterm sterility - on children.

This is a parenting forum!

Yes. What Toetotoe said.

DandelionsAreNotLions · 17/12/2018 14:00

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Message from MNHQ: We've taken this thread down overnight as it seems to be causing an awful lot of reports. We've a few things to discuss about it at MNHQ in the morning but we'll let you know as soon as we can what's happening with the thread. Thanks for your patience.

I'm still pissed of that the thread re contacting lottery fund about concerns where the money is going to ethical charity is still deleted.
Some Tweeters send a pile of new members over to make offensive statements about women, cue them being reported, late night mod deletes the thread coz volume of reports.
Does Mumsnet like being controlled by Paris Lees and mimmymum?

Seems like it. Grrrrrrr my blood pressure.

stillathing · 17/12/2018 13:21

“Dry menopausal old women” such a dreary, male thing to say. We’ve all grown up with insults like that, water off a duck’s back mate.

people who just can't help proving our point whilst desperately trying to prove their own are the best.

i am eagerly awaiting a cogent argument as to why it is ok to lobby for the dismantling of safeguarding and the sterilisation of children. one that doesn't screech "hate!" and isn't dripping with misogyny.

come on. this is an open forum and we can't block you and it is not feminists who are weaponising the report process.

oh and glinner you rock Glitterball

SirVixofVixHall · 17/12/2018 12:08

“Dry menopausal old women” such a dreary, male thing to say. We’ve all grown up with insults like that, water off a duck’s back mate.
Interesting spelling too. Do you think he meant fetid, or fettered ? It took me a minute or two to work out scaraficial. My mind ran through scarred and facial before hitting on sacrificial.
3/10 . Leonard has paid no attention this term and must try harder if he wants to pass his English language GCSE.

vicviking · 17/12/2018 11:26

Adding my thanks to Glinner. Absolute star.

AdultHumanFemaleXX · 17/12/2018 11:09

Thank you for all that you've done Glinner, it is such a huge relief that someone in your position really gets this, sees how wrong and insane it all is and is willing to stand up to it. It's all so stressful and exhausting so I hope you do manage to take a break from it all over Christmas. I'm going to try and do that too. Have a wonderful Christmas! WineXmas Smile

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/12/2018 10:14

Glinner posted this on another thread last night

From a friend

"Can everyone write their complaints to Dawn Austwick [email protected] and urge others to do so. The grant has been confirmed but not signed off, there is still time to stop it and we need to force a review. Mermaids push an extreme ideological agenda, they are not professionals and they have no qualification to work with children and young people. Their approach towards children with gender dysphoria is experimental and non-evidence-based but we know that children treated in this way are more likely to embark on a medical pathway they don't come off once they start. The vast majority (around 80%) would resolve their feelings naturally by the end of puberty if left alone, and the most likely outcome is same-sex orientation in adulthood."

Will do, Graham. Thanks for all you do. Take care of yourself and your family and have a peaceful and joyful Christmas.

Danaquestionseverything · 17/12/2018 10:05

Thanks for all you do Glinner. Wishing you and your family a restful and merry Christmas.

Ereshkigal · 17/12/2018 10:02

Great letter OP.

tarziew · 17/12/2018 10:01

I just sent this to the Big Lottery lady.

Dear Dawn,

I'm sure you are already bombarded with emails first thing on Monday regarding the carry on on Mumsnet last night so I won't keep you too long.

This is just to send a message to please reconsider the allocation of lottery money to the organisation Mermaids.

As you may be aware by now, this is an organisation created after a woman, Susie Green took her son out of the country for a sex change operation for his 16th birthday which was and still is illegal in the UK.

This organisation (I don't know if it's an registered charity) is pushing for medical and surgical interventions for CHILDREN, instead of the NHS recommended method of 'watchful waiting'.

Many children with gender dysphoria grow out of it if not sent down the medical path (around 90%). However once children start taking puberty blockers the chance of them 'detranstioning' drops to less than 10%.

The NHS method of watchful waiting is by far the most sensible one, considering how many children do in fact change their minds. Social media has a huge part to play in this as well.

Mermaids advocate breast binding for young girls, surgery and powerful hormones for both sexes, leaving these children sterile. This cannot be considered acceptable under the age of 18.

The transactivist lobby are loud and noisy and quite frankly abusive as I'm sure you will be aware by now so I know the pressure you will be under this morning.

I urge you to please listen to the sensible parents of Mumsnet and withdraw the promise of funding.

Yours sincerely,

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Melamin · 17/12/2018 09:45

Why are they so worried if they think Mermaids is beyond reproach?

It shouldn't really be a problem with all the verifiable information they at their finger tips. Wink

LangCleg · 17/12/2018 09:38

DerRosenkavelier - it was a Twitter thread by Lucy of the Deptford People's Project. She is interviewed at Feminist Current about it here:

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/

DerRosenkavelier · 17/12/2018 09:17

Just wanted to add my thanks and appreciation to Glinner.

It is wonderful that he stands up to the dreadful hate and bile. And his courage really helps when I feel like throwing my hands up and backing away from the whole thing.

For my part, I’m a typical MC mother in a nice little bubble. I have sons who are not at a ‘risky’ age yet for all the YouTube shite (hopefully). My friends think I am nuts to be bothered about this kind of stuff and think I’m overreacting. The only one who has read a tiny bit on this cites the ‘45 per cent of children will commit suicide’ nonsense as a reason to support the trans agenda.

But apart from my massive self interest that I don’t want to called ‘cis’, and I don’t want male bodied people in changing rooms, or wards, or have unfettered access to places young girls are vulnerable, or indeed any women are vulnerable, it was a statement from a women’s group in east London that really troubled me.

I can’t remember the precise details (maybe someone on here can remember) but a representative pointed out how it would be the socially disadvantaged that would really suffer. TRAs may target language and academics, and insist their penises should be allowed in TopShop changing rooms, but it’s poor women accessing crisis services who will really suffer.
If you have no choice but to go into a homeless shelter, you will have no choice if someone with a raging boner is put in the bed next to you.

So thank you Glinner. You have already given me the favourite moment of Christmas so far. My DS and I cuddled up on the sofa and I introduced him to the IT Crowd; he laughed like a drain.

Ereshkigal · 17/12/2018 08:46

Why are they so worried if they think Mermaids is beyond reproach?

masterstef · 17/12/2018 08:45

Paris' tweet and the outraged re tweets are the only way I knew about this and the original content of the other thread's OP. Including the info of whom to contact.Thanks Paris, saved me a job!

tarziew · 17/12/2018 08:43

If I squint at Paris Lee’s screenshot I can still see the email address.

Dawn. Austwick@biglotteryfund. org.uk

I shall be emailing her this morning with a detailed description of the carry on on here last night.

They will not win.

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